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Tennessee has a lot of auto plants, too don't they?  They used to build the Saturn there.  I think both Honda and Toyota have plants.  Ford and Chevy also have plants in Kentucky, I believe.  Ford makes a lot of Explorers there and Chevy makes the Corvette, I think.

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Not our problem anymore.

 

LouieB

 

Well unfortunately it is.  See these guys are terrorists and put there cause they sought to do harm to the US.  Not that they are out they are more than likely embolden to cause more harm to the US.  It is not like these guys are going to back to selling insurance.  Their jobs is terrorism.  So yeah it is our problem.  

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Bad guys.

 

Your world is childlike.

It's easier than typing 'depraved Islamist terrorists bent on overthrowing the government by any means necessary, including suicide bombs, rape, beheadings and torture involving electric drills applied to skulls and knees.' Forgive me, sometimes I'm lazy.

 

For what it's worth, soldiers, Marines and special operations types often refer to their opponents as 'bad guys.' It's actually a pretty good catch-all description.

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Have you every freaking read about Abu Ghraib, or Guantanamo Bay even are?

 

Do you seriously think that you can generalize their populations.  That's the most intellectually lazy, Orwellian brainwash crap ever.  Bad guys.  There are people in prison without trial for standing on the wrong corner when something blew up.



The military is trained to think like that because they wont be an efficient instrument of war if their members can actually fathom the horrid moral ambiguity of their situations, an informed voter on the other hand should aspire to more.

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Have you every freaking read about Abu Ghraib, or Guantanamo Bay even are?

 

Do you seriously think that you can generalize their populations.  That's the most intellectually lazy, Orwellian brainwash crap ever.  Bad guys.  There are people in prison without trial for standing on the wrong corner when something blew up.

 

The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, which was formed earlier this year through a merger between al Qaeda's affiliates in Syria and Iraq, said in a statement that it was behind the storming of the jail late on Sunday night.

 

The attack began when suicide bombers smashed explosives-laden cars into the prison’s front gate, while gunmen attacked guards with rocket-propelled grenades.

 

As fighters held off reinforcements outside, other militants, some wearing suicide vests, stormed into the prison and freed the convicts.

 

“Most of them were convicted senior members of al Qaeda and had received death sentences," Hakim Al-Zamili, a senior member of the security and defense committee in parliament, told Reuters.

 

Bad guys.

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Have you every freaking read about Abu Ghraib, or Guantanamo Bay even are?

 

Do you seriously think that you can generalize their populations.  That's the most intellectually lazy, Orwellian brainwash crap ever.  Bad guys.  There are people in prison without trial for standing on the wrong corner when something blew up.

 

The military is trained to think like that because they wont be an efficient instrument of war if their members can actually fathom the horrid moral ambiguity of their situations, an informed voter on the other hand should aspire to more.

 

Ok, settle down now.  I don't think anyone here was making any generalizations.  You seem to be thinking "bad guys" refer to all Iraqis or something, I am not too sure.   Nevertheless the "bad guys" are the ones in the Abu Ghraib (yes, I am sure some are innocent but the majority of these guys are there for legit reasons).  As Hixtler pointed out these guys in prison are bad guys.  

 

These guys now that they are out are not going to sit around peacefully and become regular members of Iraqi society, they will probably go back to their terrorist ways.  I hope not, but it is not likely.  

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Have you every freaking read about Abu Ghraib, or Guantanamo Bay even are?

 

Do you seriously think that you can generalize their populations.  That's the most intellectually lazy, Orwellian brainwash crap ever.  Bad guys.  There are people in prison without trial for standing on the wrong corner when something blew up.

 

The military is trained to think like that because they wont be an efficient instrument of war if their members can actually fathom the horrid moral ambiguity of their situations, an informed voter on the other hand should aspire to more.

 

this is a bit, right?

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This dude should be finished, but somehow he is not. Go figure.

 

LouieB

 

Why?  By all accounts he did nothing illegal, just creepy.  Look at Mark Sanford and Elliott Spitzer who have done things far worse then what Weiner did.  Hell what Bill Clinton did is worse and he is the darling of the Democratic party.  

 

Personal life is just that, personal.  In his professional life he has been a competent politician who did right by his constituents.  It only affected his professional life because the media made it an issue.

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Why?  By all accounts he did nothing illegal, just creepy.  Look at Mark Sanford and Elliott Spitzer who have done things far worse then what Weiner did.  Hell what Bill Clinton did is worse and he is the darling of the Democratic party.  

 

Personal life is just that, personal.  In his professional life he has been a competent politician who did right by his constituents.  It only affected his professional life because the media made it an issue.

 

I am not sure he has done anything noteworthy as a politician to justify running for mayor of NYC.  And some people care if their mayor is a clueless perv.  just ask San Diego.

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I am not sure he has done anything noteworthy as a politician to justify running for mayor of NYC.  And some people care if their mayor is a clueless perv.  just ask San Diego.

 

Here is an article on Weiner's legislative record.  

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/13/nyregion/weiners-record-in-house-intensity-publicity-and-limited-results.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

 

Not great, but enough to run on for the mayorship or any other office.  

 

But regardless of his accomplishments his personal life should not preclude him from office.  If you give Mark Sandford a pass, Elliott Spitzer a pass, Bill Clinton a pass then you have to allow Weiner the same pass.  I am not saying you should vote for him nor am I advocating for his campaign.  There just needs to be some consistency.  That is what I was trying to point out to LouieB.      

 

Also what the San Degio mayor did was likely illegal, what Weiner did was just dumb.   

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Why?  By all accounts he did nothing illegal, just creepy. 

 

These latest exchanges took place long after he resigned, so now it seems obvious that he's a serial creep and all of his apologies to his constituents and his wife were nothing but hot air.

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