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I was in the weird position of not being familiar with UT but getting AM and Trace when they came out and seeing both tours. At the time, it was obvious to me that Jay was the real talent and Jeff was minor. I liked the AM tour but the record, except for I Must Be High, Box Full and It's Just That Simple I could never really get into. I thought Trace was a classic from the minute I heard it. When BT came out and the reviews were so positive and I went out and got it and was blown away. Trace may have been better than AM but BT crushes Trace, imo, and it hasn't even been a contest since a

Cool Rolling Stone write up by David Fricke: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/r-e-m-roar-back-with-collapse-into-now-20110207 Buck calls it the best thing they've ever done, I believe we've heard that before so we'll see. Also, you can download the individual tracks to It Happened Today and mix them however you like and then submit them. Haven't done it yet, sounds pretty cool though. http://remhq.com/news_story.php?id=1293

The 7,200 boxes sold out @ $450 per. They are selling all of the shows w/o the steamer trunk and all the goodies for the same price, $450. Hopefully they'll eventually sell these shows for individual download but who knows.

Any chance on ripping it and putting it up on rapidshare or something like that? I have had trouble getting into it, yes i bought it, and would love to see if the loudness wars are the cause.

Just snatched. Didn't listen the whole way through but did sample it and it crushes the Fast Eddie verison. First off, they use the original H & V instead of the Smiley Smile version. The SS version to me always lacked the power of the original and this is a huge upgrade. The Roll Plymouth Rock is better, the Barnyard and Surf's Up Sync are outstanding and Song Fir Children and Child are better. I like th BWPS seques to give it flow. Guess the Fast Eddie goes in the bin now. Thanks a lot again for the link. And to answer A-man's question from before, let's hope for Al's sake he wa

80 bucks they can keep it. This sounds like the Fast Eddie version I spoke of earlier. No harm in pulling this to see how it compares, thanks for the link. For me, my dream way of doing the box set would be to sequence it the way Brain was thinking in '66, if he can even remember. Then have the remaining discs be the sessions ala the pet sounds box. It's obvious the '04 sequence is not how it would have been in '67 because it is too long and wouldn't have been broken in to 3 parts. It would be a revalation if there are vocals in the vault to songs that we previously didn't have v

I got that songwriter one for xmas, haven't been in a BB mood so haven't watched it. That Stars and Stripes was the aborted '96 reunion, right? It did produce that great tune Soul Searchin' which was on the Brian solo Gettin' In Over My Head with Carl singing lead. That tune was from the '95 Wilson/Paley sessions which produced some great tunes.

It's on disc 1 of this DVD, it's directed by David Leaf: http://www.amazon.com/Brian-Wilson-presents-Natalie-Imbruglia/dp/B0007YKL2G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1297016885&sr=8-1 Disc 2 is a live performance of Smile. The movie is 2 hours and imo worth it on it's own. 1st hour is on the '66-'67 seesions, last hour is on brians fall and the '04 project.

I don't have any of the sea of tunes, just some individual smile cd boots, the 3 record colored vinyl boot and a cd boot of the heroes & villians sessions. It's not the beach boys w/o carl & dennis and the thought of Mike Love prancing around shaking his 70 year old ass like he's 20 makes me sick. Does he think anyone finds that attractive? It's actually kind of skeevy (sp?) Too bad you didn't see brian's band, just an amazing collection of musicians. You probably know that Paul Mertens, who played in the Total Pro's horns for Wilco is in the band but the whole ensemble is just gr

Lol, that is a kind way of describing him. Smile getting finished was actually the worst thing to happen to him because his theories were disproven and rendered him irrelevant. The book is great though for what it is. I think they said no overdubs, I don't think they'd fuck this up by doing that but stranger things have happened. I'm really not interested in a reunion tour unless it has brian's whole band and even then, it will will probably be just greatest hits shows which really aren't interesting to me. Brian's shows have started to lean heavily this way anyway. I was hoping he's s

I hope the smile stuff does come out to see what, if anything, is left in vaults that hasn't appeared on boots or the boxed set and to get clean copies of all of it. Actually surprised mike love gave his blessing, guess he smells the cash. After Brain Wilson Presents Smile came out in '04' some guy named fast Eddie came out with a mix which was all the '66 -'67 era stuff sequenced exactly as brian sequenced it in '04 and I'd say 97 to 98% of the music was the same, just a few orchestral segues were added and about 70% of the words were there. I've never seen it explicitly stated what lyric

Probably my favorite of the run because they played heron house and i was just the right amount drunk. Thanks to lax MSG security, we were able to convert our 300 Level behind the stage seats to 100 level basically at center ice. Apparently stipe joined opener luscious Jackson at the end of their set wearing a big Afro wig and sang elo's evil woman. Missed it because we were still at the old blarney stone on 32nd, my old fave pre msg show hang out.

The Waters DVD is called, iShoot,iEdit. It was seeded on Dime and Traders Den.

GD has been about 40% of what I have downloaded. Since there is so much you can snatch, I have gotten real discriminating about what I take and do tend to listen to what I snatch more than once. It has to be a show of great quality, great setlist, some kind of importance etc. With most bands, most shows from any one tour are pretty much the same so I look for the best recording of the tour. For the Dead, I look for matrixes or nice sbd's of either an era I like or a show that has a setlist that I dig. That Roger Waters Wall DVD of the guy that shot 4 shows and mixed them together, stuf

That's funny, ever since i started torrenting i listen to more of that stuff than anything else. All i do is music, audio and DVD but i think think this is the greatest thing ever. To think i used to spend 40 to 50 bucks on boots, now i can get all of this stuff and shows that would not be financially viable to boot for the price of an internet connection and an external HD, i love it. I find it interesting that you find it archaic, seems easier to me. To each his own.

Thats the accusation that's being most often hurled at them lately. They've pretty much been on the album every 3 years cycle since '98. I'm sure they feel that at this point in time, the world doesn't need a new R.E.M. record every year. Peter has all of his side projects that quell his ADD to be playing all of the time, Stipe has his myriad of other interests and it seems that Mills enjoys playing golf and becoming an elder statesman of music. To that point, the social circuit page of the Phila Inquirer had a small article and a page of pictures from the white tie ball for the Academy of

Yeah, they're missing an opportunity by not touring.

Which one was that, Thursday, Friday or Sat? That would mean you were at 4th 5th or 6th show

Discoverer live in the studio on Rolling Stone. This verison beats the album IMO. http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/blogs/rolling-stone-video-blog/exclusive-r-e-m-strips-down-in-powerful-new-video-for-discoverer-20110203

Figured something like that. The '95 tour, while not their best, was definitely fun and the fact that it was bb's last makes me glad i saw as many as i did. Im sort of ambivalent about them not touring this time. I've seen them so much and with 2 young kids, i don't need the temptation of seeing a bunch of shows. The 3 evening with wilco shows last year were enough. However, the 5 tunes from CIN have gotten me as pumped about rem as I've been in a long time so some shows would be fun.

What's an anorak? I figured with a name like auctioneer you knew the history, just thought you got confused on which tracks were studio. I never really listen much to those versions because Binky and wake up bomb aren't favs and and I don't like how stipe sung undertow on the 2nd U.S. leg. I'm gonna really geek out here. I saw them 4 times in June '95, Pittsburgh and all three MSG shows. By the 4th MSG show undertow was my new favorIte song of all time as they had played it at all 4 shows. Then there was that Milton Keynes show broadcast in July and I had a clean copy and played the shit

Way to get the thread back on topic.

I know. Who would have thought a Morrisey board would be a treaure trove of R.E.M. stuff. I have a PM into the guy who remixed those HiFi tracks about Undertow; if I get a clean copy I'll let you know. Also, if you find a working link to Free Form Jazz Jam, a song that was on the orginal Reveal but left off, please let me know. I can't find this anywhere.

I let that go that they weren't studio versions as I figured he just liked the other versions better. The only studio songs on hifi are How The West Was Won, New Test Leper, E-Bow and Be Mine. I remember at the time of the Monster tour that Peter said the goal was to have 10 new songs in the set by the end of the tour and make a record from that; they got pretty close. I believe the only song that was written after the tour and never soundchecked was How The West Was Won. I think the answer to why are fans downloading these remixed tracks is that they sound really different and to my ears

Love Witchita Lineman There's a guy over at murmurs that got a hold of the multi tracks for hifi and remixed it. To me, hifi always suffered from a bit of muddiness on the sound since most of the recording was done in soundcheck and live on the '95 tour. He stripped it down and the songs really breathe. He posted the link on a Morrisey board, I highly recommend checking them out. Here's a link to murmurs which has the link to the morrisey board http://www.murmurs.com/topic/116370-my-new-adventures-remix/page__p__2040299__hl__thomas08__fromsearch__1#entry2040299