fuzzzzzzzzzz Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 whats a good deal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jhh4321 Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 whats a good deal Fender Hot Rod Deluxe Best deal your gonna find IMO, loud as you could ever want, tube power, etc. etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pecan_Pie Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 IMO the Fender Hot Rod is too loud for an amp, unless you don't have a pa for your amp don't get the fender hot rod. I also personally do not like the tone, although it's too loud to turn up enough to open the amp up anyways. Ampeg amps are great i hear. If you're into all the pedals and stuff the Fender Pro Jr. will do you wonder (15 watts, 2 knobs). Also a Vox Ac-15 is right in there and kicks as much ass as the AC-30. If i were you though I would save up an extra hundred dollars and get the 800 dollar Fender Deluxe Reverb (22 watts, and beautiful). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Fender Hot Rod Deluxe Best deal your gonna find IMO, loud as you could ever want, tube power, etc. etc. How is the Hot Rod Deluxe different from the Blues Jr or the Blues Deluxe? I am in the market for an amp these days too, and most people seem to think the Blues Jr is a great little tube amp with warm tone, etc. in this price range. Do folks agree with that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Blues Jr. is 15 watts. Hot Rod Deluxe is 40 watts. Other than that, I don't know what the differences are. I'm leaning towards getting myself a Pro Junior, but lately I've been advised to get an amp with a master volume control, so I'm considering the Blues Junior as well. Pro Juniors are supposed to haver better tone, though, so I guess I'll have to do a comparison test at a shop that has both amps. If you want to know all about Fender stuff, this isn't the place to be. But this is: http://www.fenderforum.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jhc Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 If you're into all the pedals and stuff the Fender Pro Jr. will do you wonder (15 watts, 2 knobs). Very true. Or a Blues Junior. Or a vintage Vibro Champ (susally get those for $300-400) Also a Vox Ac-15 is right in there and kicks as much ass as the AC-30. I dont think you're ever going to see those at $700 or under sadly. Even the new Chinese-made Custom Classics are more like $900. Another good brand to look at is Traynor (which is what I have). YVC40WR for people who like a Fendery sound (but with better overdrive IMO) or the YCV50Blue for Marshall fans. Both very nice amps for that can be bought new on ebay for $500-600 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smokestack Joe Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Orange Crush 15R or 30R probably between $100-150 for the 15 watt and $180-300 for the 30 watt. has been penned 'the best practice amp" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oceanman Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I might be selling my Fender Deville , if you would like to talk PM me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motorik Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Peavy Classic 50, all tube 2X12 $300 to $500 used. Check E-bay, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Those are nice amps. They make a Classic 30, also, which is probably $50-$100 cheaper and might be better as a practice amp. The Classic 30 is definitely on the short list of amps I'm considering (along w/ Ampeg Jet and Fender Pro Jr. & Blues Jr.) once I can put aside another $100 or so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pecan_Pie Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Sorry, but the new Ac-15s are going for about 600 without the Celestion speaker (which imo is jsut a fancy, upgrade and actually doesn't sound as good) online so you could probably get it a little cheaper in a store. Also, just look for some kind of used amp. Got my Mesa/Boogie here for 300 bucks. Great little amp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jhc Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Sorry, but the new Ac-15s are going for about 600 without the Celestion speaker (which imo is jsut a fancy, upgrade and actually doesn't sound as good) online so you could probably get it a little cheaper in a store. I had missed those - thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pecan_Pie Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Yea man, only real problem is that the new Vox/Korg quality control is shit. So find a dealer who will let you return it if it dies, or buy one pre-used/tested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anodyne Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 the peavey classic amps are great. i have a carvin bel air (50 watt 2x12 combo with a REALLY lush reverb). i'd recommend one, but they do get loud. the carvin vintage 16 might be a better choice for a small tube amp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a.miller Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 Yea man, only real problem is that the new Vox/Korg quality control is shit. So find a dealer who will let you return it if it dies, or buy one pre-used/tested. I could not agree more. A couple of years ago I had a Vox produced Cambridge 30 twin. It was a great sounding amp, I believe 2 10" Celestion bulldogs and it had a tube preamp. It sounded F--KING GREAT. Good warm clean and a great dirty overdrive channel. Also had wonderful built-in tremolo and reverb. The problem was that there was something wrong with the power amps that necessitated them being shorted out every so often so that they would act together and not cause a shitload of noise, hum and feedback. Got it fixed twice and then got rid of it. It was never very loud (30 watts nothing!!) and two of my friends had the same amp and suffered the same fate. I know it's a long story, but I don't want to see good money go to waste like mine did. Makes me weary of the higher-end Vox equipment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
squarewave Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 (edited) Yea man, only real problem is that the new Vox/Korg quality control is shit. So find a dealer who will let you return it if it dies, or buy one pre-used/tested.North Coast Music out of Milwaukee www.voxshowroom.com is the best place to buy a Vox if you are considering mail order.They open up and visually inspect and electronically test EVERY single unit before it is added to stock, and I believe they also install a speaker jack on the combos at no extra charge so you can use an extension cab if you want to. They do this, and they still sell at the minimum allowed pricing just like Guitar Center, Sam Ash, or Musician's Friend. Also if you are an od school Vox nut, they have awesome reproduction replacement cabs built to vintage specs with correct materials and coverings, and they are licensed by Vox UK. Edited March 18, 2006 by A_Wheel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
squarewave Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 Back to the original topic, I picked up a Crate Vintage Club 20 (single 10", all tube combo) and it is the best $200 I ever spent. I know that these and the 1-12" versions pop up on ebay all the time for reasonable prices. They auto-bias, so retubing is a snap. I just retubed mine with matched tubes from Euro Tube and it sounds great. A great sounding, all tube Crate sounds like an oxymoron, just like the Peavey Classics go against the grain of what that company traditionally offers... Both lines offer excellent combos for the money, and since they are each sold all over the place, they are readily available for reasonable prices on the used market. I see a lot of love for the litte Fender combos, and with old Fenders it is well deserved. Modern Fenders are hit-and-miss IMO, and I would not really consider buying anything except maybe a reissue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest awitness29 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Like others before me...a Peavey Classic 30 would be a great amp...I've got a Hotrod Deluxe and have played countless Classics...hell, I've even got a "classic" Classic 50 (late 70's model), and I'd say they're about the same, but the Peavey would be alot cheaper. If you can find one for a good price...Dr. Z makes a nice little tube combo called the Mini Z (I think). All it has is a volume nob, but man, does it sound amazing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 (edited) I just got a Traynor Custom Valve 20 (YCV20WR) and love it. They sell for something like $500-$600 new, but you can find them on ebay for $350. It's a 15 watt tube amp, but if you need more power they make 50 and 80 watt models. These amps have more features than most other 15 watt tube amps on the market. The 50 watt got Guitar Player magazine's "Editor's Choice" award, for whatever that's worth. http://www.zzounds.com/item--TNRYCV20 EDIT: As was mentioned above by another poster, they also make a 40 watt model. It might be the 40 watt that got the Editor's Choice award, and not the 50 watt. Sorry, I can't remember exactly. Edited March 20, 2006 by jff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jhc Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 I just got a Traynor Custom Valve 20 (YCV20WR) and love it. They sell for something like $500-$600 new, but you can find them on ebay for $350. It's a 15 watt tube amp, but if you need more power they make 50 and 80 watt models. These amps have more features than most other 15 watt tube amps on the market. The 50 watt got Guitar Player magazine's "Editor's Choice" award, for whatever that's worth. http://www.zzounds.com/item--TNRYCV20 EDIT: As was mentioned above by another poster, they also make a 40 watt model. It might be the 40 watt that got the Editor's Choice award, and not the 50 watt. Sorry, I can't remember exactly. Most importantly, the wine red versions look really cool Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Most importantly, the wine red versions look really cool Yeah, it even looks a lot nicer than the photo in the link. In my opinion it's the best looking amp currently on the market (let's just admit it: appearance matters). Great sound, too. I've read that swapping out the stock tubes (Sovteks) with JJ/Teslas makes it sound even better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jhc Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I've read that swapping out the stock tubes (Sovteks) with JJ/Teslas makes it sound even better. I can personally attest to that. My only "complaint" is that the 40W is overpowered for what I need it for so I might look into an inexpensive attenuator like a Weber Mini Mass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I can personally attest to that. My only "complaint" is that the 40W is overpowered for what I need it for so I might look into an inexpensive attenuator like a Weber Mini Mass. Did you have any trouble replacing the tubes? Many of the reviews at Harmony Central say it is hard to access the tubes due to protective metal plate, or something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jhc Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Did you have any trouble replacing the tubes? Many of the reviews at Harmony Central say it is hard to access the tubes due to protective metal plate, or something. It was a tad awkward, but not really bad at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 It was a tad awkward, but not really bad at all. That's good to hear. I'll probably swap my tubes out pretty soon. I've never done it. Is there anything I need to know in order to avoid electrocution, or can I just unplug the amp and get to work? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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