Poor Places Live

[run_run_run]

Listening to 9/20/03 live (which is A+ so far) and I am wondering why they don't have the YHF transmision durring Poor Places play at the end of resent live versons?

[Guest tandylacker]

transmision durring resent versons

 

 

[zach5277]

Now-a-days when Wilco plays Poor Places it usually fades into noise which then provides a transition into another song. Perhaps the lack of the YHF transmission is to make that transition a little smoother?

[Guest Speed Racer]

Conet Project copywrited the transmissions. The reason why folks like you and I are able to purchase the second pressing of the four disc Conet Project is due to a settlement of an undisclosed amount, Wilco --> Conet Project.

[run_run_run]

Now-a-days when Wilco plays Poor Places it usually fades into noise which then provides a transition into another song. Perhaps the lack of the YHF transmission is to make that transition a little smoother?

They could do YHF transmission ~> more noise ~> next song (spiders!)

[wheelco]

wilco is returning to being an organic folk groop and is discontinuing noise and hiss

[run_run_run]

wilco is returning to being an organic folk groop and is discontinuing noise and hiss

That would be somthing

[froggie]

hmm, cooledit has hiss and noise reduction functions. maybe i should put a sample of these transitions in and see what happens?

[Gobias Industries]

conet project copyrighted the transmissions, so they can't play them anymore.

[aricandover]

conet project copyrighted the transmissions, so they can't play them anymore.

 

they've played them since the lawsuit.

[run_run_run]

they've played them since the lawsuit.

Right and all the details of the settlement are not public.

[luke]

i had no idea "yankee-hotel-foxtrot" was being said at the end of that song till I listened to/attended a few 2003 shows.

[MrRain422]

They also aren't promoting YHF anymore.

[pickleboiler]

I can't belive conet can copyright something that was transmitted all over the fucking world and not by them.

[run_run_run]

They also aren't promoting YHF anymore.

True, but if you go with that logic they sould never play YHF tunes again.

[MrRain422]

True, but if you go with that logic they sould never play YHF tunes again.

 

Not really.

[Artifex]

I can't belive conet can copyright something that was transmitted all over the fucking world and not by them.

 

 

But the recording was done by them.

[jhc]

But the recording was done by them.

 

was it? or just the collection/archiving?

[Gobias Industries]

But the recording was done by them.

 

It's a collection of shortwaves. The shortwaves were created by other people (e.g. government agencies), the Conet Project just pressed "Record" and packaged it.

 

So yes, they recorded it, but not in the typical sense of when someone records an album.

Edited October 3, 2006 by poortranslator

[rareair]

they published the work.

 

makes little difference that it was not in the form of a record.

[Guest Speed Racer]

they published the work.

 

makes little difference that it was not in the form of a record.

 

And besides, what nation-state would actually claim responsibility for them? It's kind of a get-not-rich-quick scheme. No one else will claim ownership, so they can.

Edited October 3, 2006 by Speed Racer

[jhc]

It's a collection of shortwaves. The shortwaves were created by other people (e.g. government agencies), the Conet Project just pressed "Record" and packaged it.

 

So yes, they recorded it, but not in the typical sense of when someone records an album.

 

Works produced by the government are in the public domain, no?

[aricandover]

Works produced by the government are in the public domain, no?

 

 

wilco probably thought the same thing

[MunkyKayse]

It's a collection of shortwaves. The shortwaves were created by other people (e.g. government agencies), the Conet Project just pressed "Record" and packaged it.

 

Conet Project was actually a compilation of recordings made by many, not just the one who collected them. There are four cds worth of recordings with broadcasts from all over the world in different languages, many with just tones and pulses.

 

So person A records a number station of unknown origin five-ten years ago, shares it with person B who places it on CD for sale, person C digs sound and samples recording in a song, person B sues claiming the recording was his originally... B & C settle out of court (What does person A receive from settlement? )