MrRain422 Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 The Piston's have always been Stern's 2nd favorite team. Care to back that up at all? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H-Bomb Henry Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 Care to back that up at all? I was just joining in on the complaining. However and I've mentioned this before.... his punishment for the Pacers/Pistons was either favortism for the Pistons or hatred of the Pacers. I tend to lean towards my second guess. I can give you proof of Pacer hatred. 1999 playoffs. Pacers 1 seed Knicks 8. Pacers have their best shot of winning a championship. Knicks beat the Pacers when Larry Johnson shoots 3 pointer and hits and according to the official was fouled by Antonio Davis. Grandmama sinks freethrow to go up by 1 and give the Knicks the defeat. I'm almost sure that Stern being a New Yorker isn't a big Piston's fan. Good luck getting any calls against the Spurs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moltisanti Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 Pistons-Spurs is gonna be awesome. Every year we go through this with the officiating. I remember when Rick Smits was fouling Shaq out of games. Now that was some bullshit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TunedToChords Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 How many times do you see the officials call a foul on the last play of the game? Almost never You can't expect to get a call unless its a really really obvious hard foul. That's just how it works. I'm really tired of the Pistons and the Spurs. I really hope they don't make it to the finals. Although I bet it would be a pretty good series. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 The Pistons and Spurs are my two favorite teams. Well, the Pistons are my team anyway, and I feel like I have to respect the Spurs because they play a similar game (although with some distinct differences -- the Spurs are certainly the Western Conference team most similar to the Pistons though). I won't dispute that the Pistons got some calls in that last game, but as tunedtochords said, that will never get called when it may tilt a playoff game. It's not team favoritism, but simply the league's refusal to call a foul that may tip an important game. It's still not really a fair application of the rules, but it's certainly a consistant one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 Christ, there are a lot of stupid sportswriters out there. He's not Michael Jordan, and he probably never will reach that height. Thats not a knock against Lebron, thats just how good Michael was. Also, his game is probably closer to Magic Johnson's than Jordan's, isn't it? I like LeBron, but he might not even be the best player in the league right now (Dirk, Nash, Kobe, Wade, Dwight Howard might all be ahead of him). He's a fantastic player, but he's still way too scared to take the shots at the end of the game (he's still young, understandable), and he's not much of a defender. Hell of a game in game 3 though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 No frickin way Dwight Howard is better than Lebron. He could end up better, but I wouldn't bet on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 However and I've mentioned this before.... his punishment for the Pacers/Pistons was either favortism for the Pistons or hatred of the Pacers. I tend to lean towards my second guess. I can give you proof of Pacer hatred. The official explanation is sometimes bullshit, but in that instance, the official explanation was that they came down harder on the players who actually went into the stands and fought the fans. That seems perfectly reasonable to me. Do you really think that Ben Wallace, who overreacted by shoving Ron Artest, deserved to be punished as much as Ron Artest and Stephen Jackson, who attacked fans in the stands? I know it was debated around here at the time, so I'm not going to get too wound up about it now, but I didn't realize that this was a viewpoint that was out there right now. Anyway, re: Lebron. He's never going to be as good as Jordan, but he's actually better than Jordan was at the same age (due mainly to his earlier entry into the NBA). His team probably would have won if he was more aggressive in the first two games, but citing Jordan in his peak to criticize Lebron now seems silly. Why should Lebron, still early in his career, be compared to the concensus greatest player ever at his peak? Doesn't make sense. It took Jordan until his fourth try to get past the Pistons in the Playoffs. Lebron came close to it last year in the conference semi-finals, is likely going to end up with a hardfought loss in the conference finals this year, and is still six years younger than Jordan was when he won his first championship. It's not as if this is Lebron's last chance to carry his team to a championship or anything. He's still young and relatively inexperienced in the playoffs (at least compared to the Pistons, or compared to Jordan when he won his championships). I think the media criticism of him at this point is way overblown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 No frickin way Dwight Howard is better than Lebron. He could end up better, but I wouldn't bet on it. He's not better, but I'd probably rather start a franchise around him than LeBron from a basketball standpoint (not from a marketing standpoint, though.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Hey, hey LBJ2 more wins,then the Spurs will pay! Or something like that. THINK FINALS!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 'stons Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Had a feeling OT was looming. First four games all had OT potential. Sucks for the guys at work, who have to hit pages for 2-star in 13 minutes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 This game just might kill me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 23 straights points, huh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 And 27 of their last 28. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Lebron makes me cry. Also, I'm still angry that McDyess got ejected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Wow. What a game by Lebron. Incredible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 How's Dwight Howard doing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 How's Dwight Howard doing? Good bit. A young dominant center is probably more valuable than a young dominant forward, in my opinion. That said, LeBron can take over a game when he wants to, huh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 A young dominant center is probably more valuable than a young dominant forward, in my opinion.That sounds reasonable, especially when there aren't many great centers these days. But calling them both dominant doesn't mean they're equally good at their respective positions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Yeah, a great center is more valuable than a great forward of equal talent, but I think Lebron's talent exceeds everyone's by a wide enough margin that it would be difficult to pick anyone else to build a team around, given the choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Yeah, a great center is more valuable than a great forward of equal talent, but I think Lebron's talent exceeds everyone's by a wide enough margin that it would be difficult to pick anyone else to build a team around, given the choice. Kobe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 I meant to refer to the crop of young stars, but yeah, I didn't say that. Why can't you just read my mind? But yeah, Kobe's probably the best player in the game (for another year or two before Lebron overtakes him). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 I meant to refer to the crop of young stars, but yeah, I didn't say that. Why can't you just read my mind? But yeah, Kobe's probably the best player in the game (for another year or two before Lebron overtakes him). No problemo. Last night's performance was one of the best I've ever seen, including Jordan, so you might be right. He needs to shoot better than 70% from the line, though. No excuse there. I still think Kobe is the best in the game, but the gap is narrowing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 No problemo. Last night's performance was one of the best I've ever seen, including Jordan, so you might be right. He needs to shoot better than 70% from the line, though. No excuse there. I still think Kobe is the best in the game, but the gap is narrowing.Sam Smith makes a case for this being the best ever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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