solace Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 for once i agree w/ you Maker nobody was hereby declaring how Wincing will be looked upon 10 years from now, simply initial reactions, which are important. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chendizzle Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Chutes was SOOOOO immediate, and I think it still stands up. I dunno, Wincing just doesn't grab me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 i have fallen a bit more for a few songs (Red Rabbits, Split Needles, Turn On Me) but even still, none of those tracks are even close to some of the best songs i've heard this year. also, Black Wave might be my least favorite Shins song to date. it just goes NOWHERE at all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaysettes Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Agreed. Black Wave sounds just like an intro Split Needles para mi. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mystik Spiral Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I've listened to Wincing about 3-4 times now, and my reaction is definitely that I like it. At this point - less than Chutes, but I think more than Inverted. I really really like Girl Sailor... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 For what it is worth, I am still amazed by (and frankly a little suspicious of) anyone that can listen to an album once or twice and come to a final conclusion about its merits.When I wrote record reviews for money, I had to do that all the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 All elbow-nudging aside, who said anything about final conclusions? Should we abstain from discussing new records at all until a certain grace period has passed by? All we can do when offering an opinion of a newly released record is talk about how it makes us feel right now. Historical context will arrive years later, whether we want it to or not. Fair point. Perhaps I took those reviews too literally but people speak in absolute terms about how this album isnt as good as the others. That's all I meant. From a lot of those comments, it seemed as if this was based on 1 or 2 listens. There's nothing wrong with discussing albums immediately. Nothing at all. I think we are all saying the same thing. Although in fairness, if you review records and you write for Pitchfork, then the 5.6 or the 8.2 or the 9.6 rating you give, actually is a pretty final conclusion. Not to say that those reviewers arent listening to albums more than once or twice. Just that opinions are formed, and conclusions are made, on very few listens. I didnt say it shouldnt be done. I only said that I am skeptical of reviewers that do this. That's all. As an aside, how many pitchfork reviewers do you think wish they could go back and re-review the albums that they have forever stamped with their inital reactions? I bet its quite a lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lovenmercy Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 The Shins sound great recorded, but good lord are they boring live. Almost as boring as you boys' conversation up to now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skepticsightsten Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I haven't heard the new record yet (and would very much like a PM from someone with a kind heart), but I have to disagree with the live thing. I saw them in 2005 at a free concert thingy at a college in Pittsburgh, and they pretty much forced several thousand people to dance. And I mean dance. White kid style. It was awesome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 i have fallen a bit more for a few songs (Red Rabbits, Split Needles, Turn On Me) I think Red Rabbits is pretty damn great, too. Make yourself comfortable, there's plenty of room on the bandwagon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lovenmercy Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 I have to disagree with the live thing. I saw them in 2005 at a free concert thingy at a college in Pittsburgh, and they pretty much forced several thousand people to dance. And I mean dance. White kid style. It was awesome.As glad as I am that you enjoyed their show, at LOLLAthey were the human equivalent of stick figures on stage, and lame ones at that.I had waited excitedly to see them all day, and was pretty disappointed. The crowd wasn't too excited either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 they've been hit or miss for me. the first time and the last time i saw them were really great, but the 2-3 in between... eh... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skepticsightsten Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 That's too bad... Especially for people who only see them once, cause then they don't know how good they can be... Ah well...Can someone point me in the right direction to the new album? I can't use my Oink account or anything, so I have to go pretty basic MP3 download (I'm in Germany and the computer's not mine...) Thanks a lot... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Picador Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I love this record. I put off listening to it for a couple months and now I'm excited for its release. It really only took me one listen to be hooked, which hasn't happen to much in the past year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I am not a Shins aficionado by any means, but I will say that I was completely bored by their SNL appearance last night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mystik Spiral Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 i missed phantom limb last night but did catch new slang. it seemed really slooooooooow. i love the new record though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jhh4321 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 kind of weird that they did a song from an older album Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nettles Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 kind of weird that they did a song from an older album agreed. I was expecting either one of the first 2 tunes off the 'Wincing' which I think are fantastic, 'New Slang' seemed a little phoned in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I am not a Shins aficionado by any means, but I will say that I was completely bored by their SNL appearance last night.they've never been all that exciting of a live band unfortunately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wendy Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 they've never been all that exciting of a live band unfortunately.The Shins could benefit from a little Candystations help (or somebody like that). Not that Wilco is boring, but I loved it when they had the visuals on the screen behind them. And those great Fred Tomaselli works too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Help!!! Someone please get Phantom Limb out of my head! I cant stop listening to it, singing it, humming it! whoa ooooo ohhhhhh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigideas Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 yeah, i have watched that SNL/Phantom performance several times and i like the song now. it seemed kinda bland at first listen (and maybe it still is). i think part of the reason i want to watch it is because of the Viva Voce tambourine player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 yeah, i have watched that SNL/Phantom performance several times and i like the song now. it seemed kinda bland at first listen (and maybe it still is). i think part of the reason i want to watch it is because of the Viva Voce tambourine player. Yes, who was the tambourine player? Also, when did the new guitarist join the band? Sorry, I've been out of the Shins loop since Lollapalooza. I think it was just the 4 of them at that time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I am not a Shins aficionado by any means, but I will say that I was completely bored by their SNL appearance last night.I have seen them discussed quite a bit on here, so I sat down to watch that intentionally. It was my first exposure to their music and, sadly, it will probably be the last. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I have seen them discussed quite a bit on here, so I sat down to watch that intentionally. It was my first exposure to their music and, sadly, it will probably be the last. Yeah, they probably should have played a more upbeat second song, instead of New Slang. I could see how people would be bored if this was their first exposure. If they ever re-air their Austin City Limits episode, check it out, you might think otherwise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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