bentonbourbon Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Weren't there a few songs from AGIB that were leftovers from around YHF-era?I seem to remember that Hummingbird and some others were ...Anyone? Just curious Thanks ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
welch79 Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 also, handshake drugs and less than you think. there may be others. a version of handshake was included on the more like the moon ep which was available as a d/l to those who purchased yhf. i heard less than you think at a show i d/l from the ryman in march 2002, which may be considered yhf-era. i'm sure there are others with more knowledge than i... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 The Late Greats was written a long time before AGIB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kalle Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Spiders was also played fairly early after YHF was released. The U2 version mind as opposed to the kraut rock one on the record. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubenRemus Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Doesn't "Wishful Thinking" go back to at least 2001? I think I have a recording of them soundchecking it, somewhere in NY/NJ if I remember right... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kalle Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Yeah they played it at a sound check like three years before AGIB came out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 The Late Greats was written a long time before AGIB That debuted in July '03. Several other AGIB songs had already been around for a while by then (ATLWYS, LTYT, Muzzle of Bees, Spiders, Handshake Drugs, Theologians). I think it was one of the last AGIB songs to debut, of those that were played before the album was released. I'm not sure if it's still considered YHF era at that point or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kalle Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 I think one of the few songs that wasn't played live during '02 and '03 and was mor ethan likely written in the studio is Hell Is Chrome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 That debuted in July '03. Several other AGIB songs had already been around for a while by then (ATLWYS, LTYT, Muzzle of Bees, Spiders, Handshake Drugs, Theologians). I think it was one of the last AGIB songs to debut, of those that were played before the album was released. I'm not sure if it's still considered YHF era at that point or not. Jeff has said it was written a long while earlier though. Like Being There era. That long ago. I wasn't referring to when it was debuted live. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Ah, I didn't know that. Cool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheMaker Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 "Spiders" was actually played before YHF was released. I remember seeing them in Toronto a couple days prior to the big day and thinking I'd have the drop on all the new songs, and then they went and opened with a great song I'd never heard before. That great song, of course, went on to become AGIB's black eye. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 "Spiders" was actually played before YHF was released. I remember seeing them in Toronto a couple days prior to the big day and thinking I'd have the drop on all the new songs, and then they went and opened with a great song I'd never heard before. That great song, of course, went on to become AGIB's black eye. I don't think spiders sounds much like black eye at all, but then again, I'm not a huge tupelo nut. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigWheeledWagon Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 I also seem to recall "Late Greats" being referred to by Jeff as one of the many left-overs from the "Being There" era. Unlike some of the other songs from that time period, I don't think they recorded a version of it at the time. I really wish that the "Being There" songs that didn't make the cut would leak out like the "YHF" and "Summerteeth" demos. The only song that I've even heard that got left off "BT" has been "Old Maid" performed live by Jeff solo. Then again, those songs may have been lost -- I though I recalled Jeff saying something about recording over some stuff because of the difficulty of obtaining good old-fashioned reel-to-reel tape. Anyone know anything about this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gobias Industries Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 I don't think spiders sounds much like black eye at all, but then again, I'm not a huge tupelo nut. I think he means black eye like "it sucks real bad," not Tweedy's Black Eye song. Which I heartily disagree with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lordgoat Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 I think he means black eye like "it sucks real bad," not Tweedy's Black Eye song. Which I heartily disagree with. Me too i love spiders. I love most of AGIB, not overly fond of hell is chrome... Interesting thread, keep em coming... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 I think he means black eye like "it sucks real bad," not Tweedy's Black Eye song. Which I heartily disagree with. I was trying to be silly, but failed apparently. I understood what he meant, and in doing so, realized that anyone who thinks so lowly of spiders deserves only a joke response. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest tandylacker Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 'themaker' has been sounding pretty anti-wilco lately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gobias Industries Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 'themaker' has been sounding pretty anti-wilco lately. Lynch him! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WaronWar Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 I have question for people to discuss (I had this same question in a conversation with someone who once was Wilco but now is not): As a result of AGIB being written far prior to its recording, is the album actually creative? Disclaimer: AGIB is my favorite album. Also, I have heard most of the songs on the new album were written a while ago too? Is it true? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
So Long Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 I think AGIB is very creative, just because the songs were written long ago, doesn't mean they weren't re-vamped, or re-invented. And I'm positive early versions of the songs didn't sound nearly as good as the finished product. Also, Spiders is a highlight of AGIB, and I will street fight anyone who disagrees. HAHA...no I won't (I'm really tired). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skip Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 mmmm... we'll never know when songs were actually written...but YHF was recorded in 2000 and early 2001. I recall going to my local record store in the summer of 2001 (yes... my five year old (soon to be six) was a few months old at that time) and I heard that the then new Wilco record was delayed (i.e., the Reprise fiasco happened). I'd imagine that JT and the band kept writing and working on songs throughout all that - especially after Bennett left in the summer of 2001. I saw Spiders performed in Bloomington, IN about two weeks before YHF was released (spring 2002). It sounded nothing like the krautrock version we now know. JT's guitar was drenched in reverb. Aside form Spiders, I don't recall hearing any AGIB songs (solo or w/ the band) before then. I could be mistaken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
welch79 Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 anybody got a pre-agib spiders they'd like to upload??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest tandylacker Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 (I had this same question in a conversation with someone who once was Wilco but now is not) What is he now? And I like Wilco's music, but how do I become the music? I've never really experienced any of this new-age style of listening to music. As a result of AGIB being written far prior to its recording, is the album actually creative? All creativity must be spontaneous and recorded/released withing a year of its creation to the public. Everyone knows that. NEXT! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 anybody got a pre-agib spiders they'd like to upload??? here's the live debut of it.. back in november 2001.. just solo tweedy though http://www.sendspace.com/file/amt9pv Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kalle Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 Here's the best version of early Spiders that I have. http://www.sendspace.com/file/4c2yq5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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