PigSooie Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 You seem to be confused about what marketing actually is. Lots of people (including you) think that it is advertising alone. Wrong wrong wrong. Toyota marketers researched (a huge part of marketing) what people want. They split them into market segments that share like qualities, then tell the engineers what to design so that the vehicles are created with the feature function set that people in the segments actually want. The design part is particularly important. Then a different set of marketers (usually agencies) create advertising so that people who want the features/function can find them -- with or without sellout artists. The Echo is an entry level vehicle primarily aimed at people who care about fuel economy -- you. It is also aimed at people that were thinking about getting used, but can afford a lower priced new car (thus the term "used car alternative"). Edie Phace. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted May 29, 2007 Author Share Posted May 29, 2007 I think the fundemental problem here is that you are clearly an exemplary individual, and others (including the members of Wilco) are unable to live up to your justifiably high standards. I Link to post Share on other sites
Edie Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 "His goal, in life was to buy an Echo..." You slay me Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted May 29, 2007 Author Share Posted May 29, 2007 * road**not I will correct the mistakes - but I find it telling that you chose to attack my grammar - and not what was said. Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Someone here mentioned that at least they did not sell the song to Hummer Link to post Share on other sites
owl Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 I think it's time for people to stop posting in this thread. Either accept that 1) Wilco has "sold out" and move on because you fundamentally can't tolerate that2) They have justifiably marketed themselves because they're a business, and a small one in the grand scheme of things3) TV makes you dumber and isn't worth watching (my opinion), or4) If you're watching cable TV, you've probably already "sold" your soul This thread has gone beyond browbeating inanity, and that in itself is an unjustified lashing-out of sorts Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 not for nothing but that VW suv isn't exactly cheap Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 I hope all of you who are saying wilco sold out have never bought any of their cd's, thus feeding the corporate machine that keeps the working man musician down. Link to post Share on other sites
thermocaster Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 I bought the Echo based on its fuel efficiency Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted May 29, 2007 Author Share Posted May 29, 2007 not for nothing but that VW suv isn't exactly cheap Yeah, but, it's a VW - so, it's ok. Humvee bad - VW - good. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 UNINEVITABLE!! Link to post Share on other sites
willywoody Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 hummer is GM. i think they have more cars on the road than vw. vw has been at the forefront of new diesel technologies, also, and have cars that get better mpg than hybrids according to tests done independently by autoweek magazine. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 I'm sad that jnickerson didn't respond to my defense of him. You try to be a good guy... Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Maybe they could get some VW engineers to help people figure out how to get the bonus track off of the new cd. Link to post Share on other sites
owl Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 This thread is essentially some whining, some people saying "quit your whining," and some other people joining in the whining. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted May 29, 2007 Author Share Posted May 29, 2007 Yet you said the following in the first post:Please tell me you notice the discrepancy in logic here. I would understand if the band were huge VW fans Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 OMG you need to stop posting in this thread11 Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 This thread is essentially some whining, some people saying "quit your whining," and other people joining in the whining. Just like all the other threads here over the past 5 years - more or less. Link to post Share on other sites
thermocaster Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Maybe they could get some VW engineers to help people figure out how to get the bonus track off of the new cd. Time to unpimp ze audio! Link to post Share on other sites
ction Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Maybe they could get some VW engineers to help people figure out how to get the bonus track off of the new cd. If this thread was an episode of Seinfeld and A-man was George he'd have to leave the room on a high note right now. Well done. Link to post Share on other sites
Edie Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Maybe they could get some VW engineers to help people figure out how to get the bonus track off of the new cd. "Oh, that's for CDs? I thought it was a cupholder." Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 If this thread was an episode of Seinfeld and A-man was George he'd have to leave the room on a high note right now. Well done. I will remove The Shun - to say thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
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