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Woo! Big blast from Manny.

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Heh. Brosius was a real Yankee, as real as Gehrig.

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Sigh. Must we go through this again? Blah blah If you're a Yankee, blah blah blah anything short of a World Series title blah blah blah is a failure blah blah and doubly so if you're the highest-paid player blah blah in the history of anything.

 

blah blah this is why everyone hates yankees fans blah blah

 

Heh. Brosius was a real Yankee, as real as Gehrig.

 

I'm assuming this is sarcasm, though I can't tell.

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I'm assuming this is sarcasm, though I can't tell.

Partially. They looooved Brosius.

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Man the Yankees are total tools for blaming their loss on the f*cking bugs. Everyone had to deal with it, so stop f*cking complaining.

 

"They bugged me," Chamberlain said. "But you've got to deal with it."

 

Sorry, I forgot this was the just make shit up forum.

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Thanks Gary -- Here's another "complaint" from Joba:

 

""Bugs are bugs," Chamberlain grumbled afterward, mostly at himself. "It's not the first time I had a bug near me. You just keep your mouth closed. No excuses. I let my guys down. Disappointed is an understatement."

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"True Yankee?"

 

I thinks it's merely a player that possesses some quality (tangible or intangible) that allows him to appeal to/be embraced by the fanbase. The most obvious tangible quality would be winning - the player contributed to the winning of a championship. Another tangible quality, closely related to winning, would be the player performed in the clutch/under pressure.

 

However, there can also be the intangibles. Sorry for the example, but take Don Mattingly. He was embraced as a "True Yankee" before he was named captain and before he even had a chance to perform in the post-season. Why? There was just something about the way he played the game and carried himself that allowed him to be embraced by the Yankee fans.

 

I think every team has "true" players. For whatever reason, certain players simply appeal more to the fans than others.

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"True Yankee?"

 

I thinks it's merely a player that possesses some quality (tangible or intangible) that allows him to appeal to/be embraced by the fanbase. The most obvious tangible quality would be winning - the player contributed to the winning of a championship. Another tangible quality, closely related to winning, would be the player performed in the clutch/under pressure.

 

However, there can also be the intangibles. Sorry for the example, but take Don Mattingly. He was embraced as a "True Yankee" before he was named captain and before he even had a chance to perform in the post-season. Why? There was just something about the way he played the game and carried himself that allowed him to be embraced by the Yankee fans.

 

I think every team has "true" players. For whatever reason, certain players simply appeal more to the fans than others.

 

so...someone who, within the culture of the yankees organization, is a fan favorite, a team favorite and a management favorite? Is that the gist of it?

 

so does that mean this (that i found on line) isn't true?

 

The origin of the term True Yankee comes from when Joe DiMaggio played with the Yankees. Joe would walk into the locker room and declare that only he, Gehrig, and Ruth were "True Yankees". After this, he would take the coffee grinds from his percolator (this was before the days of Mr. Coffee) and throw them into all the lockers, except his and Gehrig's, thus showing the rest of the team their inferiority to his True Yankeedom. Joltin' Joe would also throw a fresh pot in the face of anyone who struck out more than once.

 

One day after his proclamation, Gehrig, who had no desire to be drawn into Joe's egomania, asked DiMaggio to stop mentioning his name before screwing with everyone else's locker. This infuriated DiMaggio, who couldn't believe another True Yankee wouldn't condone hazing the fake Yankees. DiMaggio, who was a master biotechnician (little known fact), created an incurable disease and gave it to Gehrig to "show that pussy." From that day on, DiMaggio was the sole arbiter of who was a True Yankee until the twilight of his career. Joe even sent Mickey Mantle back down to the minors in 1951 for being "a goddamn pussy, just like that goddamn Gehrig." However, by the end of his career, DiMaggio stopped throwing grinds into everyone's locker. Instead he delegated Billy Martin to take over. Martin, who was the only one willing to screw with his own locker, started to pee in everyone's locker. This scared Joltin' Joe a bit and gave him an ulcer, yet still pleased the old bastard.

 

The Billy Martin Fiasco

 

After DiMaggio retired, Billy Martin continued to piss in everyone's locker. One day Mantle pulled him aside and explained to Billy that Martin no longer had to piss in everyone's locker. Martin was shocked that he even "had" to do it in the first place, as he just peed in the lockers so DiMaggio would give him another bottle of Jim Beam. Martin agreed to stop peeing in everyone's locker only if Mantle agreed to go out drinking with him. Mantle decided it was in everyone's best interest to have a drink with Martin but then became an alcoholic only three days later as a result of hanging out with Billy Martin. The Yankee management worried that Mantle would die in three to four years if he kept hanging out with Martin. They decided the best course of action was to keep them separated at all times.

 

Billy was told by the team management he could not come to clubhouse meetings because he was not a "True Yankee," ironically using the term that caused Mantle to first start drinking with Martin. Instead when the team would meet, Billy would sit outside and drink beer while screaming, "Screw you guys. I am going to F*cking be manager someday, you watch. Then I am going to tell everyone what the f*ck I think about them. You hear me!" Despite Martin saying this exclusion didn't bother him, Martin would often be drunk and furious before games. This would lead to many of Martin's on field fights. Eventually it was discovered that Mantle was sneaking out of his hotel room to hang out with Martin. For the sake of Mickey's golden liver, Martin was promptly traded and faded into obscurity for a time...

 

Media uses True Yankee

 

After DiMaggio's retirement, the media in New York really hated Mantle. He was overachiever who instead of copping out of military service by becoming a glorified gym instructor like a True Yankee would do, Mantle instead had a preexisting problem that legitimately kept him out of the Army. The media would often cite how the Yankees would actually lose some games when Mantle was on the team. This was completely unacceptable even before George Steinbrenner took over.

 

Everything changed however when Roger Maris was traded to the Yankees. This man had the nerve to come to New York and win the MVP title only to lead the Yankees to a World Series loss. This very un-Jeterian act caused New York Media to realize how good Mantle really was (not DiMaggio, the greatest living hitter good, but still good) and despise Maris. The next year Maris had the nerve to try to break Babe Ruth's homerun record. Mantle, the newly anointed True Yankee, was also in the chase. The New York media decided enough was enough and, for the first time in print, the term True Yankee was used to out that traitor Roger Maris. Roger Maris ended up breaking Ruth's HR record and winning another MVP while leading the team to a World Series victory while Mantle, like a True Yankee, sat in bed and listened to the World Series with an injury. The New York Press never forgave Maris for not being a True Yankee and chased the multiyear MVP out of town to preserve the rich dynasty of the Yankees.

List of the Damned (Not True Yankees)

 

* Billy Martin - killed Mantle's liver

* Roger Clemens - was there but betrayed the Yankees for the Houston Astros

* Don Mattingly - Close Call but Yankee Captain only went to one postseason as a Wild Card... weak

* Randy Johnson - Started pitching his age and attacked press member. Very unJeterian.

* Alex Rodriguez - The very antithesis of Jeterian, and one embarrassment away from being named Mr. April.

* Roger Maris - Made Babe Ruth just a little less important aka the highest crime in Yankeeland.

* Dave Winfield - Got Steinbrenner pissed off, earning the name of Mr. May.

* Flowers - Not really a player but they pissed Steinbrenner off enough to break his solemn promise to stay away from the baseball team

* Hideki Irabu - fat toad

* Gene Michael - Had to be replaced by fired manager Bob Lemon (took two years)

* Bob Lemon - Had to be replaced by fired manager Gene Michael (took 14 games)

* Alan Embree - Didn't overperform like the rest of the crappy pitchers picked up by the Yankees in 2005

* Aaron Boone - Played basketball and hurt himself, Jeter would have made the lay up.

* Andy Pettitte - Left for more money - Jeter would have taken a hometown discount if he were on the market.

* God - While it was shown to us that he was a Yankee fan in the slapstick star vehicle "Bruce Almighty", he was later traded to the Boston Red Sox for tickets to a Madonna concert and has since declared an eternal curse on the Yankees for the trade. He currently resides in Lowell, Mass.

* Bud Selig - is only a minion of the Yankees. Reinstated His Boss back into baseball.

* Alfonso Soriano - had to be traded for ARod... Traitor.

* Jason Giambi - found it was easier to get his "meds" in NYC than in Oakland

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Yahoo! presents the bugs in Cleveland as attacking the Yankees only. Pleeeeease.

 

I mean, I haven't looked, but I'm assuming they are presenting it more like it only affected the yankees.

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actually, un-um, motherfucking- not exactly:

 

story

 

and actually, it did only appear to affect the yanks on the field. cleveland's pitchers were able to battle right through

 

i think prospector should go watch an Oliver Stone movie to satisfy his conspiracy theory itch

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actually, un-um, motherfucking- not exactly:

 

story

 

and actually, it did only appear to affect the yanks on the field. cleveland's pitchers were able to battle right through

 

i think prospector should go watch an Oliver Stone movie to satisfy his conspiracy theory itch

 

That's a pretty solid article. I blame the loss on the Yankees dormant offense. However, I also say the Indians wouldn't have gotten a run off of Joba if not for the bugs. The guy came in with two men on in the 7th and was lights out. The bugs emerge and he's all over the place with the ball. I blame the bugs for that. Oh, well. It is what it is. The Yankees have gotten some breaks over the years (Hello, Jeffrey Maier), and now they're getting some bad luck. Let's see what they're made off. They're home now. Time to win some games.

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so...someone who, within the culture of the yankees organization, is a fan favorite, a team favorite and a management favorite? Is that the gist of it?

 

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:rotfl Thank you. That takes some of the sting out of being down 0-2. I'm not gonna pretend that doesn't hurt.

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actually, un-um, motherfucking- not exactly:

 

story

 

and actually, it did only appear to affect the yanks on the field. cleveland's pitchers were able to battle right through

 

i think prospector should go watch an Oliver Stone movie to satisfy his conspiracy theory itch

 

That's the most Indian-slighting article I've ever read. The fucking midges messed with everyone. Deal with it. It's how a team deals with adversity that makes it good or bad. The Indians dealt with it. The Yankees didn't, and it's their damn fault for that and they deserve to lose for it.

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Another beautiful day here in the Mile High city with some gusty winds for tonight's ball game. Lots going on in town with the Rockies tonight, Columbus Day parade, Race for the Cure, and the Broncos and Avs in town with games tomorrow. Ah, fall. I love it.

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