ZenLunatic Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Republicans did 9-11. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 if he gets the nomination and thompson doesn't get the GOP nod (which he won't). obama will be my front-runner. I figure a republican will end up as the next president - why would you go for him I wonder. Link to post Share on other sites
uncle wilco Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 I figure a republican will end up as the next president - why would you go for him I wonder.because besides thompson, i absolutely hate the rest of the field in the GOP. they might as well be democrats. they certainly act that way. obama seems like the candidate most able to build a consensus between the parties and actually get some stuff done for a change. plus, somebody has to win this thing. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Republicans did 9-11. Along with writing and directing Eddie Murphy in, Norbit Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 because besides thompson, i absolutely hate the rest of the field in the GOP. they might as well be democrats. they certainly act that way. obama seems like the candidate most able to build a consensus between the parties and actually get some stuff done for a change. plus, somebody has to win this thing. You don't think McCain is going to make it? Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Huge turnout in NH. Some towns are worried about running out of (mostly democratic) ballots:http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/20...ampshire-t.html From whence does this energized populace come and what does it mean in the long term? Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Huge turnout in NH. Some towns are worried about running out of (mostly democratic) ballots:http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/20...ampshire-t.html From whence does this energized populace come and what does it mean in the long term?I think people have just had it with the bullshit system, and are attempting to take our country back! Link to post Share on other sites
uncle wilco Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 You don't think McCain is going to make it?no. i'm tired of re-tread politicians. we need new blood. and yet, here i am pulling for thompson on the GOP side. mccain is weak as a candidate imo. he's the bob dole of this years campaign. nice guy, but insignificant. Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 any odds yet on which county in florida is gonna screw it up this year? There is so much unrest with the electorate that I think turnout will be huge and democrat. Look at Iowa and see how many more dems turned out. Treu more republicans turned out than '04 but the dems had a nearly 3X increase in turnout Really? They dismantled nearly every Cabinet Department, ended entitlement programs, replaced the progressive income tax with a flat tax, outlawed abortion, privatized Social Security, and clubbed a baby seal all without my noticing it? They did not exactly dismantle the cabinet, but they sure as hell neutered it by filling every available position with political appointees. And by political appointees I don't mean the usual kind where lets say a person would get a job based on both qualifications and party affiliation. Party affiliation was seemingly the lone qualifier for this administration. Remember Heck of a job Brownie? Or Gonzo and his stellar performance? As to social security they tried but their attempt was so f*&%ed up that they had no chance. Flat tax is not a party wide issue and it would deal a death blow to their party as would use taxes. How so? Both of these taxes shift thhe burden downward effectively increasing taxes on the middle and lower classes. Also they could never end the largest entitlement programs because the farmers would revolt. You're kidding about abortion aren't you? You don't think they could have outlawed it had they made the effort? Heck they passed laws effectively ending the writ of habeus corpus, legalizing torture and warrentless searches, abortion would have been a cake walk. Abortion is only a tool to be brought out as needed for campaigning only, afterwards it is put back on the shelf alongside marriage amendments and other such social issues. Sorry but everything they did they did poorly and they need to be put into deep minority status. Link to post Share on other sites
fortuneinmyhead Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 just hoping it won't be new boss same as the old bosslol, how many time have i heard 'i'm gonna change things! i'm for your interests, joe america' ..then what? 'who are you joe america? i can't see you from my oval office' Link to post Share on other sites
Reni Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 Early exit polls: Dems' feelings toward Bush admin.Posted: 05:39 PM ET Which comes closest to your feelings about the Bush administration?: New Hampshire Democratic primary voters Enthusiastic Link to post Share on other sites
uncle wilco Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 There is so much unrest with the electorate that I think turnout will be huge and democrat. Look at Iowa and see how many more dems turned out. Treu more republicans turned out than '04 but the dems had a nearly 3X increase in turnout i think another 4 years of bush has thinned out the GOP faithful quite thoroughly. he has completely ruined the party in the span of his two terms. by the time we cast our ballots we very well may be looking at a landslide victory for the DEMS. unless hillary gets the nod. heaven forbid that happens. Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 Sorry but everything they did they did poorly and they need to be put into deep minority status. Which kind of conflicts with what you said about them enacting nearly every policy on their list. Other than tax cuts, a partial birth abortion ban, and 2 conservative Supreme Court Justices, I can't think of many "conservative" policies that have gotten enacted since 2000. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 no. i'm tired of re-tread politicians. we need new blood. and yet, here i am pulling for thompson on the GOP side. mccain is weak as a candidate imo. he's the bob dole of this years campaign. nice guy, but insignificant. I wonder who they will end up with then. Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 I just hope it's not Romney. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 I just hope it's not Romney. Maybe Huckabee then. Link to post Share on other sites
uncle wilco Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 I wonder who they will end up with then.that's a good question. the fact that no one has yet surged ahead from the pack is not a good sign for the GOP. it's a deeply divided party which could easily be swayed to the other side come election day. it's comical to me that Thompson finished 3rd in Iowa, yet McCain (the media darling and 4th place finisher) got more press coverage. it's fitting that Fred is a 4 letter word, because his name is never uttered by the networks. Fred is the only across-the-board conservative in the race and the GOP is so fractured by Bush's ineptitude, there's no one left in the GOP to rally around Fred. they've all fled the party, embarrassed and angered by the Bush administration. so Fred skipped N.H. to focus on South Carolina. it's only a matter of weeks until he bails. it will take decades to restore any credibility back to the GOP. if there's not a viable 3rd party established in the next two election cycles, there will never be. Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Well IKOL it is a simple matter of them having complete control of the government and doing whatever they wanted. If you can not see that they screwed up everything they touched then there is nothing I can do or say that will open your eyes to it. By the way nothing conservative since 2000? Tax Cuts every single year for 6 years? What a bout the murder/suicide law of 2009 (estate tax fgoes to 0% for one year)? The Patriot act which seemed to land in congress fully formed with little democrat input? That particular act has been on their back burner for years waiting for an opportunity to arise. The new bankruptcy laws (harder on individuals easier on business). Those are some of the low hanging fruit. Face it they have done as they wanted for 6 years and failed miserably at evrything. Time for a change, period. Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 From whence does this energized populace come and what does it mean in the long term?NPR attributed it largely to the unseasonably warm weather. Maybe we should move elections to the second weekend in June. Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Well IKOL it is a simple matter of them having complete control of the government and doing whatever they wanted. If you can not see that they screwed up everything they touched then there is nothing I can do or say that will open your eyes to it. I agree. That's kind of my point. They didn't do much that was really conservative but instead screwed a lot of stuff up. True, they got a few conservative things passed, but they increased the size of government more often than not. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Goodbye Romney you POS. Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Maybe this will wipe that shit-eating grin off his face. Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 which candidate has said the word "change" the fewest times in public? that may be who I vote for. every debate is starting to remind me of the episode of south park with the homeless people invasion Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Clinton winning with 13% of precincts reporting. Interesting. I thought Obama would win by double digits. Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Clinton winning with 13% of precincts reporting. Interesting. I thought Obama would win by double digits.Depressing. Link to post Share on other sites
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