Support group for those who are now bored with wilco

[ction]

yeah, what the heck? If someone is bored with it it's not like they can change that or they're stupid. That's just how it is!

 

Well, in some cases they're stupid. I'm exhibit A.

[Kalle]

Ha. I like the "Holy dumb" post.

 

I agree with writer Stephen King, "Either Way" is the best song of 2007.

 

Leave Me Like You Found Me is beautiful. I love.

 

The person bored with AGIB?......really? At Least That's What You Said still gives me goosebumps. Hell is Chrome is spooky good. Spiders is funky great.

 

 

I WILL agree with Wilco getting boring or bland if the next record is like Sky Blue Sky. I love the beauty of the record, but don't want another.

 

I hope the go back to 70's rock-pop sounds. I've been listening a ton to Chris Bell's "I Am the Cosmos", and I totally dig and love his approach to pop and rock.

 

I agree if they did SBS part 2 I would be extremely bored. I can't see them doing that though, they've changed it up each record previous and this lineup has too much potential to do really awesome stuff.

[alison the wilca]

Well, in some cases they're stupid. I'm exhibit A.

well, okay, i meant stupid just for feeling that way. stupid in general is a whole different ball game.

[tongue-tied]

I'm bored with Wilco right now, but SBS is a really good album. LEAVE 'LEAVE ME LIKE YOU FOUND ME' ALONE!!!!

[Guest Jules]

I agree if they did SBS part 2 I would be extremely bored. I can't see them doing that though, they've changed it up each record previous and this lineup has too much potential to do really awesome stuff.

 

Isn't SBS one of your top favorite bestest records of all time though?

[mathew]

i certainly know where alot of you are coming from..i just think sky blue sky is a work of art and its strange but when i listen i am fully engaged but once

the last song is complete i have no intrest in playing it again until another sitting ... its alot less disposible than YHF in that way .... hmmm maybe the frustrating

parts are suposed to give u that awfull felling..shake it off sounds like the rhythm of real life to me

 

i just think its important that people understand a song like walken is not wilco selling out ha! hardly .. did u all forget this is the band that

recorded a song called Im a wheel and put it in the middle of an extrmely personal album with noise and experamental stuff ya they did

yup just like real life there music has a sense of humor.

 

though I am not trying to discredit evreones legitimit reactions to these sounds I mean i wouldent introduce wilco to someone through what light because they wouldent get it

but i think as a fan of wilcos art i do... the end

[NightOfJoy]

Anyone besides me think that Wilco's tunes played 'live' are way, way, WAAAAAAY better than their studio versions? Hear me out......over the summer, I scored Being There at a garage sale for a buck. I'd never listened to the album before but was familiar with many of the tunes on it because I'd heard a whole lot of recordings of their live shows. While listening to the album, I was shocked at how trite some of the songs sounded. I was shocked at the overall production value of the album. If I was introduced to Wilco via their recorded albums like Being There rather than their live work, I'd of never given them another listen. Matter of fact, Being There is still perched by the stereo, begging for another listen.....given a choice of that or a field recording from 2003.......the field recording would win every time.

 

Who's with me or should I cower in seclusion until the impending tempest blows over?

[Lynch]

Anyone besides me think that Wilco's tunes played 'live' are way, way, WAAAAAAY better than their studio versions? Hear me out......over the summer, I scored Being There at a garage sale for a buck. I'd never listened to the album before but was familiar with many of the tunes on it because I'd heard a whole lot of recordings of their live shows. While listening to the album, I was shocked at how trite some of the songs sounded. I was shocked at the overall production value of the album. If I was introduced to Wilco via their recorded albums like Being There rather than their live work, I'd of never given them another listen. Matter of fact, Being There is still perched by the stereo, begging for another listen.....given a choice of that or a field recording from 2003.......the field recording would win every time.

Who's with me or should I cower in seclusion until the impending tempest blows over?

I agree. Look at a song like Sunken Treasure. Kind of lazy on the album, but live it kicks SERIOUS ass. Misunderstood, Kingpin, same rule applies. That's why I love all those wonderful, wonderful people who tape the shows and let us hear them and download them. I wish I could buy you all a beer!

[NightOfJoy]

Sunken Treasure is exactly what I was thinking of. The recorded version pales in front of the live version.

[yankee]

If Wilco not evolving into its current incarnation meant that it would end up like Farrar/Son Volt (keeping pretty much the same sound, with each new album sounding more and more like a pale imitation of the last), then I'm glad things have worked out the way they have. I saw Jay live a few years ago, and it was one of the most boring shows I've ever been seen

 

Yeah, I agree. I saw Son Volt about a year and a half ago, and I've never been so bored at a show! But if you want to listen to a band that just creates the same album (and I'd argue, the same SONG) over and over, go listen to them.

 

I'm glad the Wilco hasn't stayed stuck in the A.M. and Being There sound. I love those albums, but I don't need to own lots of albums from one band if every album sounds the same. I like Wilco's new stuff, and their changing sound has kept me interested in the band.

 

That said, it's not like I'm all Wilco all the time (although I have had those phases). Got to mix it up a little! Listen to anything constantly and it starts to get old.

[IRememberDBoon]

I thought the Son Volt show I saw last year was one of the best shows Ive seen in my life and Ive seen many.

If you dont know the songs off of Okemah and The Search you arent going to enjoy them live. I think both albums are absolutely stellar and better than everything but Trace,

[NightOfJoy]

Yeah, I agree. I saw Son Volt about a year and a half ago, and I've never been so bored at a show! But if you want to listen to a band that just creates the same album (and I'd argue, the same SONG) over and over, go listen to them.

 

I'm glad the Wilco hasn't stayed stuck in the A.M. and Being There sound. I love those albums, but I don't need to own lots of albums from one band if every album sounds the same. I like Wilco's new stuff, and their changing sound has kept me interested in the band.

 

That said, it's not like I'm all Wilco all the time (although I have had those phases). Got to mix it up a little! Listen to anything constantly and it starts to get old.

 

I saw Son Volt back in the late 90s...Martyrs and then a couple weeks later at the Congress. Wow, what boring shows, snoozeville. If I didnt have tix to the Congress show, I wouldnt have gone. But will I listen to Trace or Straightaways? You betcha brother.

[watch me fall]

I had a pretty kick ass time at a Son Volt show back in May. Also, same effect for the show back in October 2005.

[mathew]

just an intresting quote "The Films of John Cassavetes, made intuitive observations on the creations of the ambitious artist: "[They] can only teach us new understandings by forcibly denying us old ones, and that can be bewildering. They can only freshen and quicken our responses by altering our habitual modes of perception, and that can be disorienting".

 

this is from a popmatters article on a host is born see link http://www.popmatters.com/music/features/040714-wilco.shtml

its a fuckin awsome looka t the album

[quarter23cd]

Who's with me or should I cower in seclusion until the impending tempest blows over?

Please. If this thread's existence hasn't caused this entire site to implode, I don't think anything that can be said from here on out is going to cause much of a "tempest."

 

That said, it needs to be pointed out that your views on Being There are very, very wrong.

[Edie]

I too mainly only listen to boots, and mostly only more recent ones (since Nels joined). I think that the "new Wilco" does such a great job with the older material, the records generally pale in comparison.

 

In preparation for the residency shows though, I created a mix on my ipod of only the studio recordings, and I am enjoying it.

[Guest Jules]

all depends what you listened to first. I still like going back to the studio recordings, but then again I spent several years with them before listening to any live recordings.

[Jesusetc84]

so, it feels like that to you, right? What about the fact that each member has said the opposite with regards to participation in the process? Are they lying?

 

FYI, SBS isn't my favorite Wilco album either, just looking for clarification.

 

*Shrug* You'd think a record with 6 people this talented running on all gears would be a lot stronger than Sky Blue Sky.

I just think the record sounds completely below this band's potential. I can't believe this is the best they could come up with. This is the best live version of Wilco imo, by far. I'd just expect the studio records to match.

 

And for the guy who made the "Wilco's never been expiremental" comment...I should've used the word "Adventurous". sorry.

 

Remember back in the day Jeff said he was spinning Fela Kuti records? Where's that exotic elements we expected? I thought we were going to get challenging, noisey, polyrhythmic rock. And we got Sky Blue Sky.

 

I'm banking that the next album will be great though; Wilco likes to ditch previous sounds, and nothing would make me happier.

[a.miller]

I think SBS is good, but not better than the record that came before it, which is how I felt with all of the band's other material. Not trying to cause a stir either. However, I still think some of the band's best material is on SBS. Impossible Germany is fantastic, so is You Are My Face and Sky Blue Sky (the song) is a wonderful, dusty roller of a song. As a whole album I just don't feel the cohesion I felt with past releases.

[Kalle]

Isn't SBS one of your top favorite bestest records of all time though?

 

Yeah not just because it's a great record but it came at the right time for me. My mom passed away three days after Sky Blue Sky came out, it was the record I needed to get through it and Jeff can relate to that as well seeing as he had the same thing happen while making it. It was the perfect record for me.

It's sort of weird talking about it on the internet but nevertheless... I am not bored with Wilco as long as they don't keep repeating themselves. But the thing is, a good song is a good song. And IMO Tweedy keeps on writing them.

[oceanman]

Pretty much what Kalle said. Try to name five bands out there right now that don't repeat a certain sound.

 

Thanks for sharing man, your a great kid!

[Guest Speed Racer]

*Shrug* You'd think a record with 6 people this talented running on all gears would be a lot stronger than Sky Blue Sky.

 

Six people this talented also have the capacity to listen to each other and exercise restraint, not over power each other. The fact that it is so restrained and cohesive is, to me, evidence of the record's strength.

 

And for the guy who made the "Wilco's never been expiremental" comment...I should've used the word "Adventurous". sorry.

 

Not a guy.

 

Remember back in the day Jeff said he was spinning Fela Kuti records? Where's that exotic elements we expected? I thought we were going to get challenging, noisey, polyrhythmic rock. And we got Sky Blue Sky.

 

I'm banking that the next album will be great though; Wilco likes to ditch previous sounds, and nothing would make me happier.

 

The simple fact that you can't get into it as much as you thought you would is telling of the album's challenge. Would it have been more 'challenging' if you were able to eat it up on the first listen? Everyone who says they don't like it/it's not challenging seem to be making contradictory statements.

[Jesusetc84]

Yeah not just because it's a great record but it came at the right time for me. My mom passed away three days after Sky Blue Sky came out, it was the record I needed to get through it and Jeff can relate to that as well seeing as he had the same thing happen while making it. It was the perfect record for me.

It's sort of weird talking about it on the internet but nevertheless... I am not bored with Wilco as long as they don't keep repeating themselves. But the thing is, a good song is a good song. And IMO Tweedy keeps on writing them.

 

 

Whenever you tell that story it makes me sad...I hope I don't make you feel weird saying that...

 

My condolences.

[Jesusetc84]

Six people this talented also have the capacity to listen to each other and exercise restraint, not over power each other. The fact that it is so restrained and cohesive is, to me, evidence of the record's strength.

 

 

 

Not a guy.

 

 

 

The simple fact that you can't get into it as much as you thought you would is telling of the album's challenge. Would it have been more 'challenging' if you were able to eat it up on the first listen? Everyone who says they don't like it/it's not challenging seem to be making contradictory statements.

 

Restraint and "lack of ideas" can be confused sometimes.

 

Sorry to confuse your gender...I was too lazy to look.

 

I can't get into it because it doesn't stimulate me; intellectually, emotionally or otherwise. I'll be the first one to admit, the only Wilco record I've ever loved out of the box was Summer Teeth (I was in the middle of a Beach Boys/ Beatles phase...it was perfect timing). Being There was a little too country for me (it was the first country based album I'd EVER owned), A Ghost is Born was kind of sprawling and off-kilter, and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot was just too monolithic for me to wrap my head around the first listen.

 

Sky Blue Sky is different. To me, there's not much too the album. It's a very face value album. Jeff lyrics used to mean so many different things to me; now they mean one obvious thing. The jamming isn't to my liking, save "Impossible Germany". Melodically this isn't a terrible album, but I mean...it's Jeff Tweedy...of course the melodies are going to be at the very worst "good". The record doesn't energize me, move me, challenge me or sooth me...it just bores me to death save for 3 or 4 songs.

 

I know this sounds high and mighty from someone with no special talents, except for perhaps my ability to eat an obscene amount of Mac & Cheese in one sitting, but that's how I feel; about 8 of the songs on this record are in the bottom 4th of Wilco's catalogue.

[mpolak21]

Yeah not just because it's a great record but it came at the right time for me. My mom passed away three days after Sky Blue Sky came out, it was the record I needed to get through it and Jeff can relate to that as well seeing as he had the same thing happen while making it. It was the perfect record for me.

It's sort of weird talking about it on the internet but nevertheless... I am not bored with Wilco as long as they don't keep repeating themselves. But the thing is, a good song is a good song. And IMO Tweedy keeps on writing them.

 

Kalle, I'm so happy you were able to find some solace in the record. While nowhere near on the level of what you went through, a friend of mine was killed in a car accident a couple of weeks after Ghost is Born came out. I was 18, jaded and confused as all hell, and Ghost is Born got me through one of the toughest times of my life. Even the drone made sense. As you said it was the right record at the right time, and it's probably my favorite record because of it. I don't know if it's necessarily better than YHF, Summerteeth or Being There, but it probably means more to me than any other Wilco album.

 

--Mike