mountain bed Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Indeed. It's been a while since I watched it; I thought there was no crowd shots at all on the video, but the youtube clip does show a long shot.I think it was called "Hard To Handle". Really good concert flick, imo. I saw that tour when it hit the States. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I think it was called "Hard To Handle". Really good concert flick, imo. I saw that tour when it hit the States.Bingo. That's the name. I remember I used that concert movie to introduce a girlfriend in college to Dylan. She was hooked and at last check had seen him about 15 times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 This is most assuredly blasphemy here, but I wouldn't rank Blood on the Tracks in my top 10. The rest shift in precedence. BOTT has it's moments, but I think it gets a bit more credit than deserved. It's certainly one of his most accessible albums. I don't know why the word "Accessible" has to be the kiss of death for some fans (not just for Dylan). It's accesible because it's good to most people. It does not have to be "Challenging" to be good. I'm not busting your chops, I can see how for true fans, going deeper in the mix rewards repeated listening. The accessible stuff gets overplayed and starts to get tiresome so I see that side. But damn, Blood on the Tracks is just great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I don't know why the word "Accessible" has to be the kiss of death for some fans (not just for Dylan). It's accesible because it's good to most people. It does not have to be "Challenging" to be good. I'm not busting your chops, I can see how for true fans, going deeper in the mix rewards repeated listening. The accessible stuff gets overplayed and starts to get tiresome so I see that side. But damn, Blood on the Tracks is just great.I mean accessible is that people claim to be Dylan fans and that is the entire depth of his catalogue. And I don't mean that to sound elitist because I'm anything but. I took Blood on the Tracks out and played it for about a week. And to make sure it wasn't just my mood at the time, or setting, I listened to it under a variety of conditions. I listened to it in a house, I listened to it with a mouse, I listened to it in a boat with a goat, in a box with a fox,I listened to it here and there, I listened to it everywhere. I did not hate Blood on the Tracks.But it's not my fave so I can't take it back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Teacher Man Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I mean accessible is that people claim to be Dylan fans and that is the entire depth of his catalogue. i don't understand that line. EDIT - i mean that i literally don't understand it. can you please explain? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 i don't understand that line.They don't dig any deeper into his music, his catalog. They'll sing loudly to the chorus of Like a Rolling Stone. You can pick those people out at a Dylan concert. Yes, there is great music that is not intricate, highly worked, or mused over; nor do they require more than mere listening enjoyment. But in the scheme of Dylan's catalog I don't rank it very highly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigideas Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 i've never liked Ballad of a thin man, but apart from that - PERFECT!. he should have shoved Can you please crawl out your window in the place of Ballad and it will be perfect, IMO I love Ballad of a Thin Man. What do you not like about it? I've never heard Crawl though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I love Ballad of a Thin Man. What do you not like about it? I've never heard Crawl though.It was on Biograph. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I wish I had been alive and heard Ballad of a Thin Man when it came out. I figure it was kind of like hearing Straight Outta Compton for the first time when it came out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window (Youtube link)Â Hendrix did that song also. I've never cared for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Teacher Man Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 They don't dig any deeper into his music, his catalog. i see. i think you just a had typo in the original comment. however, i have not heard every dylan record, as he has a shit ton and i don't have the money to buy them all. i still consider myself to be a big dylan fan. is fanship only to be based on the depth of his catalog that we've heard or had access to? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I think it was called "Hard To Handle". Really good concert flick, imo. I saw that tour when it hit the States. thats the one. it was filmed in sydney over the 24th and 25th of feb that year. my favourite bit of it is as he's introducing In the garden and mentions Springsteen, he belches into the microphone  I love Ballad of a Thin Man. What do you not like about it? I've never heard Crawl though. i dont know.. it just never grabbed me compared to the rest of the tunes on the album. it might be the weird melody. Crawl can also be found on Masterpieces (japan only release). there are a few outtakes too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Not wanting to get into the whole BOTT or Ballad of a thin man discussion, I have to say that the latest bootleg series is right now my favorite Dylan album to listen to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightOfJoy Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 The Rolling Thunder tour from the bootleg series is awesome. Isis is such a damn cool tune. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 thats the one. it was filmed in sydney over the 24th and 25th of feb that year. my favourite bit of it is as he's introducing In the garden and mentions Springsteen, he belches into the microphone "I'm gonna do a song about my hero....you might have your own hero. Maybe, I don't know, maybe Mel Gibson...or Micheal Jackson or Bruce Springsteen. But I don't care nothin' about none of those people". Â Â yep, that's my favorite bit too Froggie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 i see. i think you just a had typo in the original comment. however, i have not heard every dylan record, as he has a shit ton and i don't have the money to buy them all. i still consider myself to be a big dylan fan. is fanship only to be based on the depth of his catalog that we've heard or had access to?Not at all. There are all sorts of constraints that keep you from exploring an artist -- although fewer today than there were 10 years ago or more. If you're interested in listening and expanding, that's my only point. Rather than because you know the words to "Tangled Up in Blue," saying' "I'm done." By all means, dig into the catalog when you have a chance and weigh BOTT against other albums. "I'm gonna do a song about my hero....you might have your own hero. Maybe, I don't know, maybe Mel Gibson...or Micheal Jackson or Bruce Springsteen. But I don't care nothin' about none of those people".   yep, that's my favorite bit too Froggie. Doesn't he give a snicker after he says Mel Gibson? Like "c'mon" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I mean accessible is that people claim to be Dylan fans and that is the entire depth of his catalogue. And I don't mean that to sound elitist because I'm anything but. I took Blood on the Tracks out and played it for about a week. And to make sure it wasn't just my mood at the time, or setting, I listened to it under a variety of conditions. I listened to it in a house, I listened to it with a mouse, I listened to it in a boat with a goat, in a box with a fox,I listened to it here and there, I listened to it everywhere. I did not hate Blood on the Tracks.But it's not my fave so I can't take it back. Your explanation makes sense. It sounded like you were rejecting it because it was accessible which is clearly not the case. It's very common for zealot music fans (I mean that in a good way) to like the non obvious albums. Like Pearl Jam fans liking No Code the best or how many Zep fans like "Presence" the best. It's because they have put the time in and found the nuance. That's why I like to hear people's opinions on these things, lets me know what I should listen to that I may not have considered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 i see. i think you just a had typo in the original comment. however, i have not heard every dylan record, as he has a shit ton and i don't have the money to buy them all. i still consider myself to be a big dylan fan. is fanship only to be based on the depth of his catalog that we've heard or had access to? you can actually listen to nearly every track from every album online. on bobdylan.com go here: http://www.bobdylan.com/#/albumschoose an album and then choose a track or two to listen to Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Teacher Man Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Not at all. There are all sorts of constraints that keep you from exploring an artist -- although fewer today than there were 10 years ago or more. If you're interested in listening and expanding, that's my only point. Rather than because you know the words to "Tangled Up in Blue," saying' "I'm done." By all means, dig into the catalog when you have a chance and weigh BOTT against other albums. i totally hear ya. and agree. glad to hear that you can listen to any of his stuff on his site. i'll be rummaging through the late 70s/early 80s stuff soon... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmait Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I heard "The Man In Me" on the radio on the way to work today. Great song. If you want to dig deeper than BOTT, try New Morning (1970), Planet Waves (1974), and Desire (1976) to see what else he was doing in the '70s. >i've never liked Ballad of a thin man Try the version on Live 1966: http://www.bobdylan.com/#/music/live-1966  >It's very common for zealot music fans (I mean that in a good way) to like the non obvious albums. Like Pearl Jam fans liking No Code the best or how many Zep fans like "Presence" the best. It's because they have put the time in and found the nuance.That's why I like to hear people's opinions on these things, lets me know what I should listen to that I may not have considered Well said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Teacher Man Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 i don't much care for Desire. i am alone there? New Morning and Planet Waves rank among his best in my opinion (see my list posted earlier). i think both out shine BOTT. Time Out of Mind is quickly rising high on my list these days. I always had a little trouble getting into it just purely because of his age, or I should say, the age of his voice, but now that i've grown to love his singing as an old man, this album is getting a ton of play. I love Trying To Get To Heaven. Among my favorite of his tunes. period. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmait Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 >Time Out of Mind is quickly rising high on my list these days. I always had a little trouble getting into it just purely because of his age, or I should say, the age of his voice, but now that i've grown to love his singing as an old man, this album is getting a ton of play. I love Trying To Get To Heaven. Among my favorite of his tunes. period. Â Yes, Trying to Get to Heaven is incredible and ranks among anything he has written. I'd add Standing in the Doorway, as well. I've seen some incredible live versions of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Teacher Man Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I'd add Standing in the Doorway, as well. I've seen some incredible live versions of it. That's actually currently playing on my iPod. I concur. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 i don't much care for Desire. i am alone there? New Morning and Planet Waves rank among his best in my opinion (see my list posted earlier). i think both out shine BOTT. Time Out of Mind is quickly rising high on my list these days. I always had a little trouble getting into it just purely because of his age, or I should say, the age of his voice, but now that i've grown to love his singing as an old man, this album is getting a ton of play. I love Trying To Get To Heaven. Among my favorite of his tunes. period. I like Desire. Romance in Durango, Sara, Isis, all great songs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I generally prefer acoustic Dylan. But - Desire is probably the album I listen to the most. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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