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Let's not forget that George Bush invented Hurricane Wilma so he could destroy the levees and drink the blood of poor blacks.

Why resort to extreme caricatures to make a point? Those kind of exaggerated overstatements always undermine the argument. That said, I'm told that the blood of poor blacks goes very well with a pound of Jewish flesh.

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Well, we're at a point in politics where nobody tries to change anything. The only point of elections is to keep the chain moving, don't make too many waves, etc. That's why two potentially good candidates in Obama and McCain have become, basically nothing more than the mouths of their parties, going back and forth on issues depending on what puts them closer to maintaining power. It's sad.

 

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I'm an Obama supporter, but I'm not expecting a tidal wave of change. I'm just hopeful that he'll be a decent president.

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I'm an Obama supporter, but I'm not expecting a tidal wave of change. I'm just hopeful that he'll be a decent president.

me too. we've had quite an indecent president (and administration) for most of this decade, and i'll be very happy if our next president turns out to be decent. to me, in this case, decent means: (1) reaches out to other countries and tries to find what we have in common, with the intention of coming to constructive agreements (even though some will fail, it would be nice to have our leader give it a real and honest shot); (2) makes some kind of effort to reverse the "rich becoming richer and poor becoming poorer" phenomenon; and (3) starts cooperating with other countries on the planet, many of whom are way ahead of us in this, in taking care of where we live.

 

i would like to see the leadership -- which would have to be both moral and practical -- try. try to lead this country in constructive directions. it doesn't take a messiah or whatever to make those efforts. it just takes smarts and decency; even a tiny bit of progress in the next 4 or 8 years would count for something, and i think uplift not only u.s. citizens but those of many other countries as well. if the next president bats 1 for 4, it's better than the 0 for 4 we've had this decade. actually, it has to be minus-zero but as a baseball fan i can't figure out how to express that just now.

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Well, I guess you can choose to believe in the vacuous cartoon Obama that's playing in your head--that Obama, although fictional, might be worthy of your dismissive derision--but that Obama isn't the one running for president back here in reality. The real-life Obama is no more an empty celebrity than he is a Messiah. Why resort to extreme caricatures to make a point? Those kind of exaggerated overstatements always undermine the argument.

 

That cartoon version of Obama is just a tactic to get gullible undecideds (such as NASCAR fans who are low on the evolutionary scale) to vote for McLame. What they don't realize is that McSame (in addition to being the retroactive reincarnation of Bush) is actually really old and thus unqualified to be President (at least until the a few years from now when 130% of our population is really old and will thus be forced to rely on a President willing to invest trillions of dollars in developing a time machine so they can kidnap their younger selves from the past and tax them to fund Social Security). If only there weren't so many mischaracterizations of Obama.

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That cartoon version of Obama is just a tactic to get gullible undecideds (such as NASCAR fans who are low on the evolutionary scale) to vote for McLame. What they don't realize is that McSame (in addition to being the retroactive reincarnation of Bush) is actually really old and thus unqualified to be President (at least until the a few years from now when 130% of our population is really old and will thus be forced to rely on a President willing to invest trillions of dollars in developing a time machine so they can kidnap their younger selves from the past and tax them to fund Social Security). If only there weren't so many mischaracterizations of Obama.

Obviously some liberals choose to believe in a cartoon version of McCain; I'm not sure how that relates to my original statement. (I don't think I implied that cartoonish reductions only happen on one side of the spectrum. I think calling McCain "McLame" is just as juvenile and stupid as calling Obama "Messiah." It's politics for sixth graders.) Are you suggesting that the existence of a cartoon version of McCain somehow justifies mischaracterizations of Obama? Two wrongs make a right (wing)?

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Obviously some liberals choose to believe in a cartoon version of McCain; I'm not sure how that relates to my original statement. (I don't think I implied that cartoonish reductions only happen on one side of the spectrum. I think calling McCain "McLame" is just as juvenile and stupid as calling Obama "Messiah." It's politics for sixth graders.) Are you suggesting that the existence of a cartoon version of McCain somehow justifies mischaracterizations of Obama? Two wrongs make a right (wing)?

 

I wasn't accusing you of making such reductions, though you appear to be selective in your outrage towards that type of thing. I've noticed several McLames/McSames go by uncorrected on this board.

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I got that one from my brother. Very lame and desperate, and of course avoids any discussion of issues as it focuses on the unimportant.

 

"I can't vote for someone that doesn't put his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance or have a flag on his plane" (may not be the actual words but damn near close)

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"I can't vote for someone that doesn't put his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegiance or have a flag on his plane" (may not be the actual words but damn near close)

God damn right. Fuck him. I want the old white guy. Comfort.

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it's scary how many nutty illinformed voters will swallow this sort of childish scare tactic and vote on it. A pal brought an anti-Obama one over to show us that a church in town is giving out to it's members. She believed it!Obama is a muslim terrorist!

 

And, I think it's BS that churches get away with this stuff

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He should spend some of his money developing an American flag magic carpet that can whisk him to and from campaign events when he's not swooping around and saving babies and old people from getting hit by cars or senseless muggings.

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