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Tomorrow's game could use a nice bench-clearer to reset the tone.

Ok as long as you mention it, maybe someone here can answer this question Bobble and I had after the Dodgers-Phillies deal the other day. Say there was a brawl in the playoffs and suspensions were handed down. Would those players have to serve them immediately or could they appeal and serve them next year?

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Well, the Yankees decades- century long tradition of arrogance and air of entitlement is what made them an evil empire. Boston is nowhere near that.

 

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Ok as long as you mention it, maybe someone here can answer this question Bobble and I had after the Dodgers-Phillies deal the other day. Say there was a brawl in the playoffs and suspensions were handed down. Would those players have to serve them immediately or could they appeal and serve them next year?

Rarely do players serve suspensions immediately in the regular season, even. They almost always appeal in the hopes of reducing the sentence and buying some time for adjustemnets to the roster to be made in their absence.

 

Definitely something that would carry over to next year.

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I'm pretty sure a suspension could never be enforced in the post-season.

So then there's really no immediate consequence to brawling in the post-season, other than being kicked out of that day's game. Interesting.

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Didn't Robbie Alomar get suspended for spitting in the ump's face?

I don't think so. He was given a 4 or 5 game suspension and appealed it. Plus, I think that was a regular season game (cusp of post-season play). I remember the Umpire's union threatened to walk out on the playoffs but the collective bargaining agreement would have held them to work.

 

Typically, Selig waffled on the whole thing. Alomar should have been immediately suspended.

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and yet everywhere I go, people are saying we're the new Yankees. What you say is true, of course, but being the team everyone hates is no fun at all. Folks have a pretty short memory. Just because we won two world series in the same decade, it seems to negate all the near misses and really shitty season ending games over the last 100 years.

 

 

I think this is more a combination of payroll (where the Red Sox do rival the Yankees), the fan-base reaction to winning, and the relatively new proliferation of "the nation" -- I think a lot of the back-lash is a reaction to the millions of band-wagon jumpers, locals who show up in what should be their home-team stadium and root for Big Papi or Youuuuuuuuuuuuu....and they've never even been to Boston, but are not only now adopting the Red Sox as their team, but rooting against the home-team from their home city...for die-hard baseball fans, that's just unbelievable. Generally speaking, and there are of course exceptions, I don't see how anyone West of the Vermont, Mass., Conn. border with NY can be a Red Sox fan?

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Sorry about that. The book "The Bad Guys Won" is a poorly-written, cliche-riddled piece of crap, but it has some funny stories in it.

 

thanks, i'm probably over it enough now, finally. but just in case, could you post the page numbers of the funny stories that aren't poorly-written, cliche-riddled pieces of crap? in your spare time. :)

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I think this is more a combination of payroll (where the Red Sox do rival the Yankees), the fan-base reaction to winning, and the relatively new proliferation of "the nation" -- I think a lot of the back-lash is a reaction to the millions of band-wagon jumpers, locals who show up in what should be their home-team stadium and root for Big Papi or Youuuuuuuuuuuuu....and they've never even been to Boston, but are not only now adopting the Red Sox as their team, but rooting against the home-team from their home city...for die-hard baseball fans, that's just unbelievable. Generally speaking, and there are of course exceptions, I don't see how anyone West of the Vermont, Mass., Conn. border with NY can be a Red Sox fan?

I have mentioned this before, but one of the reasons the Red Sox are so popular all over the country is because of the proliferation of immigrants in the first half of the last century--coming in thru Boston and then eventually moving west. Same goes for the Yankees, and immigrants coming through New York although they had more teams to pick from (Giants, Dodgers as well as the Yankees and then the Mets). There are red sox fans everywhere, and long before the sox won the world series.

 

While i agree that there are plenty of bandwagon jumpers, the truth is that there are plenty of bona fide red sox fans and there have been for a very long time. My irish grandparents came to the US in 1910 and my entire family on that side have been red sox fans ever since, no matter where they have lived and most of them lived in the Hartford CT area and West. On my mother's side of the family--all New York Giants fans, until they left. And that was unforgivable, so that side of the family became red sox fans. My 60 year old uncle who has been living in the Bay area for the past 30 years is still a die hard red sox fan. He supports the A's and goes to A's games, but he is a red sox man. And there are people like that all around the world. Red Sox fans have been showing up at other stadiums for years, long before 2004.

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I have mentioned this before, but one of the reasons the Red Sox are so popular all over the country is because of the proliferation of immigrants in the first half of the last century--coming in thru Boston and then eventually moving west. Same goes for the Yankees, and immigrants coming through New York although they had more teams to pick from (Giants, Dodgers as well as the Yankees and then the Mets). There are red sox fans everywhere, and long before the sox won the world series.

 

While i agree that there are plenty of bandwagon jumpers, the truth is that there are plenty of bona fide red sox fans and there have been for a very long time. My irish grandparents came to the US in 1910 and my entire family on that side have been red sox fans ever since, no matter where they have lived and most of them lived in the Hartford CT area and West. On my mother's side of the family--all New York Giants fans, until they left. And that was unforgivable, so that side of the family became red sox fans. My 60 year old uncle who has been living in the Bay area for the past 30 years is still a die hard red sox fan. He supports the A's and goes to A's games, but he is a red sox man. And there are people like that all around the world. Red Sox fans have been showing up at other stadiums for years, long before 2004.

 

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I have mentioned this before, but one of the reasons the Red Sox are so popular all over the country is because of the proliferation of immigrants in the first half of the last century--coming in thru Boston and then eventually moving west. Same goes for the Yankees, and immigrants coming through New York although they had more teams to pick from (Giants, Dodgers as well as the Yankees and then the Mets). There are red sox fans everywhere, and long before the sox won the world series.

 

While i agree that there are plenty of bandwagon jumpers, the truth is that there are plenty of bona fide red sox fans and there have been for a very long time. My irish grandparents came to the US in 1910 and my entire family on that side have been red sox fans ever since, no matter where they have lived and most of them lived in the Hartford CT area and West. On my mother's side of the family--all New York Giants fans, until they left. And that was unforgivable, so that side of the family became red sox fans. My 60 year old uncle who has been living in the Bay area for the past 30 years is still a die hard red sox fan. He supports the A's and goes to A's games, but he is a red sox man. And there are people like that all around the world. Red Sox fans have been showing up at other stadiums for years, long before 2004.

 

While I agree with most of your points...I can say that we're not talking just a few hundred here and there, we're talking thousands and (I'll only speak for my own experience here in Seattle...going to M's games for 30+ years) it definitely didn't peak until after 2004. The last few years have seen an enormous leap in the number of Boston fans...and I would wager that this isn't just an exception to the rule up here. That being the case there's bound to be some bad blood.

 

All that said, if you can prove to me, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you're either A) from Boston, or B ) have a good reason for being a Red Sox fan I supose I can forgive your tresspasses. I'm just that kind of forgiving guy. :cheers

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While I agree with most of your points...I can say that we're not talking just a few hundred here and there, we're talking thousands and (I'll only speak for my own experience here in Seattle...going to M's games for 30+ years) it definitely didn't peak until after 2004. The last few years have seen an enormous leap in the number of Boston fans...and I would wager that this isn't just an exception to the rule up here. That being the case there's bound to be some bad blood.

 

All that said, if you can prove to me, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you're either A) from Boston, or B ) have a good reason for being a Red Sox fan I supose I can forgive your tresspasses. I'm just that kind of forgiving guy. :cheers

There is only one major league ball team in all of new england. So, you don't have to be from Boston to be a sox fan. I also think the internet has a lot to do with why so many sox fans show up at other stadiums--because it is easier to buy tickets online. I am not disputing the whole bandwagon phenom, but the red sox fans are a different breed and a lot of that goes back to immigration of the irish and polish, not unlike the Yankees and immigration of Italians.

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Last fall, I witnessed my nephew become a Red Sox fan. We were watching the Sox beat the Rockies, and all of a sudden he turns to me and goes, "I love the Red Sox." My nephew has New York roots, was born in Chicago and until last week lived in Albuquerque, N.M.

Oh, and congrats to the Phillies and their fans. I hope the Mets are watching them celebrate.

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Report: Obama ad could push back Game 6 by 15 minutes

ESPN.com news services

 

Updated: October 16, 2008, 3:02 AM ET

 

NEW YORK -- Barack Obama might delay the World Series by a few minutes, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

 

Major League Baseball has agreed to move the World Series Game 6 start time by about 15 minutes to accommodate a half-hour Obama time buy on Fox on Oct. 29. The start of the game would move from 8:20 p.m. ET to 8:35 p.m.

 

"Fox will accommodate Senator Obama's desire to communicate with voters in this longform format," Fox Sports said in a statement. "We are pleased that Major League Baseball has agreed to delay the first pitch of World Series Game 6 for a few minutes in order for Fox to carry his program on Oct. 29. If requested, the network would be willing to make similar time available to Senator McCain's campaign."

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