Lammycat Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 So yes, the NL is partially filling. I always enjoy a good race. Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 YGB! Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Marlins up 1-0, based juiced and the mets have gone to their bullpen. The place is dead silent, but if the marlins score here, the boos alone might bring shea down right now. This is fun. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Watching Cubs/Brewers right now and thought I'd get this out of the way: AL MVP: Should be Carlos Quentin, will be Dustin PedroiaAL Cy Young: Should be Cliff Lee, will be Cliff LeeAL Rookie of the Year: Should be Alexei Ramirez, will be Evan LongoriaAL Manager of the Year: Should be Mike Scioscia, will be Joe Maddon NL MVP: Should be Albert Pujols, not sure who it will beNL Cy Young: Should be Brandon Webb, will be Brandon WebbNL Rookie of the Year: Should be Geovany Soto, will be Geovany SotoNL Manager of the Year: Should be Fredi Gonzalez, will be Lou Piniella Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 timothy lincecum. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Actually now that I look at it, I think you're right. I knew he had a great year, but just how great had sort of flown under my radar. That's for who should get it. I still think that Webb will get it. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hollinger. Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Yeah, I'd give the CY to Lincecum or even Santana before Webb. Wins don't mean anything, Lincecum would have 30 wins this year with the Dbacks playing behind him. That he's put up these numbers on an awful team is much more indicative of performance. And Alexei Ramirez is a terrible excuse for a baseball player. He hacks wildly at pitches that are no where near the zone and his defensive instincts are insanely bad. Playing in fast forward doesn't work when you lack the fundamental coordination to play baseball. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I don't think Ramirez is skilled enough to have a great career, but he had a very good season and I think deserves the award. It may have been luck, but the results are the results. And my initial pick of Webb had zero to do with wins -- I looked at WHIP, K/BB, the fact that he had a pretty good ERA in a big time hitters ballpark, and IP. Lincecum does top him in most of those, though he also walked a lot of guys and threw a lot of pitches. Overall, he's probably the better choice. I'm about 98% sure that Webb will win it though. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hollinger. Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I'll let somebody else do the talking here... Phil Rogers is also suggesting that White Sox second baseman Alexei Ramirez is a front-runner for American League Rookie of the Year. Certainly, the 26 year old beanpole Cuban has emerged as a strong option as he has hit .296/.318/.477 in 442 at-bats with 18 home runs but Tampa's Evan Longoria's three home run performance against the Twins on Thursday night may have solidified his election as despite spending significant time on the DL, Longoria has still hit .281/.353/.544 with 25 home runs in 406 at-bats. The difference between the two being that as Longoria has spend the majority of his at-bats batting either clean-up or in the 5th spot, Rameriz has been seeing cushier pitching batting anywhere from 7th through 9th in the Sox order. In my opinion - which is hardly worth the bandwidth it is printed on - I believe that the electoral process for ROY is determined by the clunkier statistics like RBI, average and runs scored (not to mention home runs). Credence is given to some defense. For instance Longoria is credited as being the complete package becuase he plays a very solid third base -- ranking 4th among starters in the Fielding Bible resulting in nearly +10 runs saved. Rogers labeled Ramirez as "an ultrasolid fielder" which is simply untrue, in fact nothing could be further from the truth. According the Fielding Bible, in Ramirez's 920 innings logged at second base, the Cuban Missile has cost his team approximately -9 runs, placing him at 27th among major league second baseman. When you consider the all-around play of the two rookies it is clear that Longoria, at the young age of 22, is the better rookie. Because I believe the award is a charade, let's look at another outside candidate - unlike the race for the Presidency, the Rookie of the Year should not be a two-man race. Twins right fielder Denard Span, in his 100 fewer at-bats, has been every bit as an ignitor to his team as Longoria and Ramirez have. When you gauge by the Win Probability Added, Span has usurped both Ramirez and Longoria in providing the production to lead to team wins. Notably, Ramirez's offense has actually adversely effect his team at -0.10. Defensively you can say the same thing. His +14 run defensive performance is the second best as a right fielder in the American League (behind the Indian's Franklin Guetierrez at +28) and probably would have led all of baseball had he been up the entire season. Though Longoria will run away with the award simply because the Rays are full of feelgoodery this year and 25+ home runs this season, Denard Span should get some serious consideration. Link to post Share on other sites
Smokestack Joe Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 BREWERS BABY!!!!!!GOING TO POSTSEASON!!! PLAYERS AND ALL THE FANS STILL STANDING IN MILLER PARK except cub fans WATCHING THE METS MARLINS GAME Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 BREWERS BABY!!!!!!GOING TO POSTSEASON!!!I hope you're right, but you're a wee bit premature. Link to post Share on other sites
Smokestack Joe Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 ONE OUT TO GO!! Link to post Share on other sites
Smokestack Joe Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 26 YEARS IS OVER!!!! BREWERS IN THE PLAYOFFS!!! Link to post Share on other sites
kimcatch22 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 26 YEARS IS OVER!!!! BREWERS IN THE PLAYOFFS!!!Your caps lock is on. I mean, congratulations. (And sorry, bjorn.) Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 who do mets fans hate more right now, the marlins or the mets? Two year in a row we keep them out of the postseason. Ouch. Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 When and where is the Detroit / White Sox game tomorrow? Go Tigers! Link to post Share on other sites
PigSooie Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 timothy lincecum. This is the correct answer. Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 26 YEARS IS OVER!!!! BREWERS IN THE PLAYOFFS!!! I tried to explain the magnitude of this to my 4-year-old daughter, but you have to endure 26 years of futility to fully appreciate it. We have 4 tickets to Saturday's game, which is game 3 of the series. I'm still in shock--playoff games in Milwaukee!!!--and a little hoarse. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I blame Willie Randolph. Congrats to the Brewers and their fans. Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 When and where is the Detroit / White Sox game tomorrow? Go Tigers!Gotta be Comiskey - that's where the cancelled game was to have happened. Go Tigers. Go Twins. Link to post Share on other sites
Preferred B Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I tried to explain the magnitude of this to my 4-year-old daughter, but you have to endure 26 years of futility to fully appreciate it. We have 4 tickets to Saturday's game, which is game 3 of the series. I'm still in shock--playoff games in Milwaukee!!!--and a little hoarse.That's awesome, Eric! The atmosphere at Miller Park on Saturday will sure be something. Link to post Share on other sites
radiokills Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I think the majority of Mets fans ultimately knew this was gonna happen again. Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I tried to explain the magnitude of this to my 4-year-old daughter, but you have to endure 26 years of futility to fully appreciate it.So...you're saying...you hope the Brewers don't make it to the playoffs for another 26 years...so your daughter will be able to appreciate it better? Link to post Share on other sites
sweetheart-mine Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 oh sure! if i had kids, as a red sox fan that's surely what i'd have hoped for them. Link to post Share on other sites
Knepps Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Go Twins! Go Tigers! Link to post Share on other sites
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