stooka Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Link Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I'm not a Coldplay fan, but... You can hear the Satriani track here. Yeah, I can hear where he's getting this idea, but it's such a small snippet that I don't buy the "plagiarism" charge. I've always thought Satriani was a major douche, though, so I may be a tad biased. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
So Long Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 He may be on to something... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dondoboy Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Even if this turns out to be BS, its hilarious. I'm not a fan of Coldplay, but Satriani is an idiot, so I'm enjoying this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Satch ruled up until The Extremeist... he's sucked and been pretty f'n lame since Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 i'll be the first to say it. U2 and Radiohead should join Satch in a class action suit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 i'll be the first to say it. U2 and Radiohead should join Satch in a class action suit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scribex6 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Seems like a stretch and conveniently timed for maximum publicity for Satriani just as Coldplay get a bunch of Grammy nominations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deepseacatfish Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I'd say they're reasonably musically close, but not enough to warrant plagiarism charges. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 When I was in Lima earlier this year, the whole city was plastered with Joe Satriani posters, since he was coming to play a big venue or something. I don't really think he's hurting for money, so why go through the bother of suing Coldplay? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stooka Posted December 5, 2008 Author Share Posted December 5, 2008 Look at it this way........If Joe wins, he'll have enough money to finally stop making music. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 He didn't make enough money from this thing? Talk about a blast from the past!http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=A_rWVPRP0nQ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Satriani always struck me as a guy with amazing technical chops but zero soul. A machine. It seems he was only saved from Guitar Center obscurity because he happened to be Steve Vai's guitar instructor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Satriani always struck me as a guy with amazing technical chops but zero soul. A machine. It seems he was only saved from Guitar Center obscurity because he happened to be Steve Vai's guitar instructor. I wouldn't go that far. For an instrumental album, Surfing with the Alien was an enormous hit. Steve Vait didn't have anything to do with that. I agree about his music, though. It's pretty bland. I've never heard the Satriani or Coldplay songs in question, so I guess Thanksgiving comes twice this year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stooka Posted December 5, 2008 Author Share Posted December 5, 2008 He didn't make enough money from this thing? Talk about a blast from the past!http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=A_rWVPRP0nQ I heard he blew it all on hair product, hence the cube. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I wouldn't go that far. For an instrumental album, Surfing with the Alien was an enormous hit. Steve Vait didn't have anything to do with that. I agree about his music, though. It's pretty bland.I would argue Vai had a LOT to do with that. Vai was enjoying the biggest mainstream success of his career, seen as being David Lee Roth's "next" Eddie Van Halen. Satriani's Surfing with the Alien came out amidst that interest in Vai. If there wasn't that interest in Vai (and subsequently the guy who teaches Vai), that album would have likely only been heard by a few, if it would have even been made at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lamradio Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Satriani always struck me as a guy with amazing technical chops but zero soul. A machine. It seems he was only saved from Guitar Center obscurity because he happened to be Steve Vai's guitar instructor. Exactly. I went to school with a lot of guitar players like that. Incredible chops, but there's just nothing there.. Just notes... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stooka Posted December 5, 2008 Author Share Posted December 5, 2008 All kidding aside, his students also included Kirk Hammett (Metallica), David Bryson (Counting Crows), Kevin Cadogan (Third Eye Blind), Larry LaLonde (Primus, Possessed), Alex Skolnick (Testament), Rick Hunolt (Exodus), Phil Kettner (L Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 All kidding aside, his students also included Kirk Hammett (Metallica), David Bryson (Counting Crows), Kevin Cadogan (Third Eye Blind), Larry LaLonde (Primus, Possessed), Alex Skolnick (Testament), Rick Hunolt (Exodus), Phil Kettner (L Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Perhaps. But I was a fledgling guitarist in the mid-'80s and I vividly recall Satriani first coming into the public eye due to being Vai's teacher. Of that there is no doubt in my mind. It was guitar magazines that sort of outed him. hmm... as a fledging guitarist in the late 80's/early 90's myself, i got into Steve's music with Flying In A Blue Dream, then revisited Surfing With The Alien, all before hearing Steve Vai (my first exposure was seeing him play with Whitesnake in 1989, then his Passion & Warfare record the next year). i was a pretty avid guitar mag reader too, so maybe i just missed the boat and got into them in opposite order of most, idk as a guitarist, while he doesn't have the feel of say a Neil Young, i don't think i'd go as far to say that he's "all notes" either, especially if you're not familiar with his vast catalog. He def has way more feel than Vai, that's for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 as a guitarist, while he doesn't have the feel of say a Neil Young, i don't think i'd go as far to say that he's "all notes" either, especially if you're not familiar with his vast catalog. He def has way more feel than Vai, that's for sure.Vai got a lot of pub around being selected by David Lee Roth when he went solo. As for Vai, I'm certainly not saying he is any better. Zappa hired him as "stunt guitar" and I think that pretty much sums up my feelings about him. But hey, different strokes. I don't like those types of players but that doesn't mean others don't. That's what makes music great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stooka Posted December 5, 2008 Author Share Posted December 5, 2008 Perhaps. But I was a fledgling guitarist in the mid-'80s and I vividly recall Satriani first coming into the public eye due to being Vai's teacher. Of that there is no doubt in my mind. It was guitar magazines that sort of outed him. True, the articles did provide the launching pad. But that kind of acrobatic playing would have surfaced sooner or later. IMO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 True, the articles did provide the launching pad. But that kind of acrobatic playing would have surfaced sooner or later. IMOWell that's kind of my point. That sort of acrobatic playing is on display at just about every Guitar Center nationwide. Not to mention YouTube clips (search "amazing guitar" or "fastest guitar solo" and see how many you find). Without the stage that was set by Vai's success, I doubt people would have paid it much mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lamradio Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 as a guitarist, while he doesn't have the feel of say a Neil Young, i don't think i'd go as far to say that he's "all notes" either, especially if you're not familiar with his vast catalog. He def has way more feel than Vai, that's for sure. Yeah, it's hard for me to give a good opinion when I have only heard his popular songs.. But hey, some folks really dig the "all technique" players.. I used to be into players like him (Vai, Eric Johnson), but now I tend to choose feel over technique.. Players like David Gilmour. Yeah he's not the fastest, but all you need is one or two notes and you know it's him... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 yeah, i stopped listening to guys like Satch around '92-93. that said, even though i don't listen to them anymore, i know the enjoyment i got out of a handful of those players and records, and even still love "Always With You, Always With Me" to this day, so i could never write them off completely. Vai got a lot of pub around being selected by David Lee Roth when he went solo. As for Vai, I'm certainly not saying he is any better. Zappa hired him as "stunt guitar" and I think that pretty much sums up my feelings about him. But hey, different strokes. I don't like those types of players but that doesn't mean others don't. That's what makes music great! oh for sure... not denying that, or that Vai talking about him didn't help (heck, even Wikipedia agrees! ) just saying that Satriani had a bit of buzz going on his own Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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