Head in a Guillotine Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I'm just getting around to watching the Obama Inaugural Celebration, which I had on DVR. I always assumed that "Pink Houses" by John Mellencamp was meant to be a satire, or at the very least sarcastic. After watching his performance and reading up on a few interviews, I was surprised to find out that the song is not satirical. Am I wrong in thinking that Mellencamp is a complete loser to write a song like that? "Ain't that America, little pink houses for you and me?" Are you kidding me, is he blind? Especially when invoking a scene of an African American in Indiana. More like "Ain't that America, a lack of good jobs for low skilled workers accompanied by a heavy dose of racism for you and me" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PigSooie Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I like this song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I've always liked this song. Written from kind of a 'the way things are' POV. The line about the black man who "thinks he's got it so good" is pretty poignant.I don't know, man. I don't get what you're upset about I guess? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I love that song and a ton of others Mellencamp wrote from 1978 to 1987. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Head in a Guillotine Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 I guess it just seems like such a rosy eyed sentiment from a man who claims to have a understanding on American power structures and how they are injurious to average people. I just don't think many people think of the United States as a place where we all have little pink houses. That's kind of a bullshit sentiment fed by conservatives to create a sense of complacency. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I guess it just seems like such a rosy eyed sentiment from a man who claims to have a understanding on American power structures and how they are injurious to average people. I just don't think many people think of the United States as a place where we all have little pink houses. That's kind of a bullshit sentiment fed by conservatives to create a sense of complacency. it's not meant to be rosy eyed... Theres a black man with a black catLiving in a black neighbourhoodHes got an interstate runnin through his front yardYou know, he think, that hes got it so goodAnd theres a woman in the kitchen cleanin up the evening slopAnd he looks at her and says: hey darling, I can remember when you could stop a clock he's saying all of these folks who have it so bad still manage to live a full life and don't really realize how bad they have it compared to "you and me", and that those who are fairly well off often tend to forget about those less fortunate, esp in pursuit of the "american dream" (ie: little pink houses) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nettles Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 always a surprise hit when drunkenly playing guitar with friends and you've just about no songs left in the bag Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Head in a Guillotine Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Solace, I understand what the song means in terms of those verses. My problem is more that there seems to be a sense of complacency about the situation. He's saying the have-nots are not well off, but they're still happy with their situation. The haves ("who vacation in the Gulf Of Mexico") are sometimes not as happy. I think most of us can see examples of that. But he seems to suggest that this situation may be alright. As opposed to suggesting that something ought to be done due to this unequal distribution of wealth. Like the chorus could have been "Little pink shacks that you are forced to live in by you and me" I just wish a little more blame was placed on "you and me" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Sounds like we interpret it differently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CortezTheKiller Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Is that allowed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Head in a Guillotine Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Yeah and that's fine. I was just looking to get people's thoughts. Thanks everyone for sharing and I'm sure I need to rethink my interpretation a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I'm definitely not saying you need to change your interpretation of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Solace, I understand what the song means in terms of those verses. My problem is more that there seems to be a sense of complacency about the situation. He's saying the have-nots are not well off, but they're still happy with their situation. The haves ("who vacation in the Gulf Of Mexico") are sometimes not as happy. I think most of us can see examples of that. But he seems to suggest that this situation may be alright. As opposed to suggesting that something ought to be done due to this unequal distribution of wealth. Like the chorus could have been "Little pink shacks that you are forced to live in by you and me" I just wish a little more blame was placed on "you and me" pretty sure the chorus is very tongue in cheek.... as in... isn't that something how America works. i think that the tone of it def states is disproval, but points out that's just the way it is and has been. it's not a protest song moreso as it is a commentary on America. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I think it is along the line of the same, easily-misinterpreted sense of irony expressed by Springsteen in "Born in the U.S.A." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quarter23cd Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 There was a pretty cool punk cover of this song by Avail. Not sure if it is angrier, but it is definitely faster. I get what you're saying, but I don't think this is exactly meant to be the kind of protest song you are looking for. Its not glorifying having an interstate running through your front yard, but there is definitely some admiration of the ability of these people to see beyond the limitations that surround them and still find happiness in their lives. I don't think its necessarily a complacency thing. Especially set against the backdrop of the yuppie-tastic '80s (those people going to work in high rises and vacationing in the gulf of mexico) the argument here is maybe that maybe the "have's" are chasing shallow and unfulfilling things, and yes, while there is clearly financial inequity (the chorus feels pretty tongue-in-cheek in its exuberance), maybe the "have-nots" have "got it so good" in their own way, too. Okay, that's all I got. I shall henceforth be known as quarter2cougar3cd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Rain on the scarecrow is a pretty good song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Paper In Fire is, too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 For what it's worth, I seem to remember Mellencamp living in a not-so-pink and definitely not little house outside Bloomington. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 "It's a lonely old night, but ain't they all." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I don't know from Mellencamp, but I do like his former violin player, Lisa Germano. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imsjry Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 So I think we're all on board with the meaning of the song. With that said, anyone else feel like it was strange to sing that yesterday then? Bruce may as well have kicked into Born in the USA. And besides the chorus to "City of Blinding Lights", I thought that was a way weird choice lyrically. I realize it was used in Obama rallies, but at the steps of the Lincoln Memorial? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 always a surprise hit when drunkenly playing guitar with friends and you've just about no songs left in the bag You are right about that. Bust that song out late at night at just about any bar, especially the ones where people work hard all week and are there to unwind, and the crowd comes alive. I don't think anybody singing along is thinking ironically or that they are protesting in some way. I always figured this song was a lot like Rockin in the free world. Basically that america is not perfect but it beats the hell out of most places. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 a few of his songs belong in the great song openers thread..... cherry bomb, paper in fire, check it out.... ect Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 still love Crumbling Down too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Then there's my favorite Mellencamp song/video - . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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