mpolak21 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 i don't buy his sincerity. I don't think Bennett is self-aware enough to say anything other than exactly what he's thinking. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stagerug Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share Posted March 4, 2009 It's not a rights issue, you're free to play pretty much any piece of music you'd like live without having to pay royalty rights. Though the songwriting in Uncle Tupelo was split three ways on the first two records, I believe like R.E.M. they decided to split the royalties three ways no matter who wrote the song and for the most part Tweedy wrote the songs he sang, Farrar wrote the songs he sang and they didn't really collaborate much. Jay Bennett wrote the chorus of Jesus, etc and most of the music. Thanks, Mike. That is for the most part what I was wondering about and driving at with my question. Thank you for answering it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Ha. That list is classic. What a D-bag. Anyway, even if Bennett did have some lyrical input to Jesus, ect., it clearly isn't a Bennett song.How is that clear, exactly? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dondoboy Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Jay Bennett wrote the chorus of Jesus, etc and most of the music. I know he can make it very hard for people to like him, but I just can't dump on a guy who'd end an interview that way. --Mike.I don't know of any way to prove that one. And that interview ending is what a girl would write in her friend's yearbook. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Teacher Man Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 How is that clear, exactly? I guess it was clear to me that those are Jeff's lyrics? Which apparently might not be completely true. I don't know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sunken mountain Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Kind of like Jesus, etc. Bennett wrote that, but it is Wilco's song. Don Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I don't know of any way to prove that one. And that interview ending is what a girl would write in her friend's yearbook.On "the list", he says much of the music, some of the lyrics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dondoboy Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 On "the list", he says much of the music, some of the lyrics. Oh that list is nutty. I don't believe for a second he wrote any of those lyrics. Not that Wikipedia is any more honest than Bennett, but: All lyrics by Jeff Tweedy. Music written by Jeff Tweedy and Jay Bennett except where noted."I Am Trying to Break Your Heart" (Tweedy) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 From Kicking Television liner notes: 10. Jesus, Etc. (Lyrics: Jeff Tweedy; Music: Jeff Tweedy/Jay Bennett) Words Ampersand Music/Warner Tamerlane Pub. Corp. (BMI); You Want a Piece of This Music (ASCAP) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dondoboy Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 From Kicking Television liner notes:I owe you a beer. So how can "the list" be taken seriously? Maybe he didn't play "noiz". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Maybe what Wilco needs is a Bez to credit with freaky dancing. But all of the drugs would likely be a bad idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barnyard pimp Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I owe you a beer. So how can "the list" be taken seriously? Maybe he didn't play "noiz". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I just happen to throw on 1.9.00 tonight and J.P. sang a great (or least fun) version of Walt Whitman's Niece. I forgot about that one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dondoboy Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I just happen to throw on 1.9.00 tonight and J.P. sang a great (or least fun) version of Walt Whitman's Niece. I forgot about that one.Yeah, Jay Bennett wrote the chorus and some of the lyrics for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
indy81 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Why do people get upset at the idea that Jay Bennett co-wrote a song that they like? Is it more romantic to imagine that Wilco's best material sprung fully-formed out of Jeff Tweedy's head? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I owe you a beer. So how can "the list" be taken seriously? Maybe he didn't play "noiz".I've been listening to the Original and Engineer's Demos recently. I can see how he can say he did or played all of those things in the last during the develpment of the album, but in regards to what appears on the final product, it seems the list is about half true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dondoboy Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Why do people get upset at the idea that Jay Bennett co-wrote a song that they like? Is it more romantic to imagine that Wilco's best material sprung fully-formed out of Jeff Tweedy's head?Nah, no one is upset. Its the manner in which Bennett waves his own banner around. Who knows what he did. I don't think that anyone would argue that most of the best material does spring from Jeff Tweedy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Why do people get upset at the idea that Jay Bennett co-wrote a song that they like? Is it more romantic to imagine that Wilco's best material sprung fully-formed out of Jeff Tweedy's head? . I think I am just going to have to accept that fact that I feel completely different about this matter than some other people on here. --Mike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tommyjacobs Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Some of the chord changes in Jesus, etc. definitely have Jay's fingerprints on them, though I can't picture him making a huge contribution to those lyrics. Jay could write some pretty melodies, but those words aren't his style. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gym Teacher Man Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Some of the chord changes in Jesus, etc. definitely have Jay's fingerprints on them, though I can't picture him making a huge contribution to those lyrics. Jay could write some pretty melodies, but those words aren't his style. I think that was what I meant when I said the lyrics were clearly Jeff's. I certainly am not upset that Jay had a hand in the writing of Jesus, etc.. It's probably a top 5 Wilco song for me. But if he didn't write the lyrics, he probably shouldn't get credit, yeah? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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