Moss Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 She probably does not have many situations in life where she does not get her way at this point. Must be very frustrating. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I tend to think of name-calling as using a word or phrase with the primary intent of being hurtful or insulting. I used "immature" and "brat" precisely because of what they both describe. If, for example, I had simply called serena williams a bitch, I would have been doing so mainly to insult her, not to describe her as a female dog. she was losing. she was down 15-30 in a game in a set in which she was down 5-6. she received a judgment she didn't like. a champion worthy of praise would funnel that anger or frustration or whatever into handing over some great serves, coming back in the game and winning the set and then the match. she chose to turn her anger and frustration onto another person, employing threatening body language and actual language. while I have seen and in a silly way enjoyed macenroe's temper tantrums in the past, I never personally witnessed him resort to the kind of behavior that serena did. If I had, I would feel the same way. I dont know much about women's tennis these days, and I know that Serena has a bad rap when it comes to stuff like this. What she said was particularly bad, but, in a vacuum, I don't think you are being fair. Some players, sometimes, turn their anger on their opponents. Sometimes, in the midst of battle, other players crack. I can't begin to imagine the pressure, the competitiveness, the frustration with an impending loss, etc. Pick a sport and you've got guys throwing Gatorade coolers onto the field, or ACTUALLY fighting someone. Did you see what that kid did at the end of the Oregon/Boise State game? Of course I wish she handled the situation better. I am not sure "immature brat" is the way to characterize what happened though. I really don't mean for what I am saying to end up sounding like I am a Serena apologist. She shouldn't have done it, and she should be penalized, and it's a bad mark on woman's tennis. I may start signing off on all posts with: This shit is complicated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
isadorah Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I tend to think of name-calling as using a word or phrase with the primary intent of being hurtful or insulting. I used "immature" and "brat" precisely because of what they both describe. not to split hairs, but sayinig Serena acted immaturely and somewhat spoiled, brat-like is describing the situation, what she did, how she behaved. serena williams is an immature brat is name calling. if i said "poonie is an abrassive ass" the mods would probably call that personal insult. it is a fine line i know, but all the same i think of it as name calling. probably just me though. carry on. this shit is complicated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Roger Federer is a loser. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 not to split hairs, but sayinig Serena acted immaturely and somewhat spoiled, brat-like is describing the situation, what she did, how she behaved. serena williams is an immature brat is name calling. if i said "poonie is an abrassive ass" the mods would probably call that personal insult. it is a fine line i know, but all the same i think of it as name calling. probably just me though. carry on. this shit is complicated. fair point. to be clear then: I think that Serena Williams acted immaturely and brat-like. I also don't think a monetary fine will change that one bit, but I will give her the benefit of the doubt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Roger Federer is a loser. Off topic - is it just me, or does it appear as though Del Potro has the longest arms in tennis? At one point, Federer was dashing back and forth, hitting what would normally be winners, playing every conceivable angle - meanwhile, here’s Potro, standing nearly still, effortlessly returning everything Federer could throw at him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 In the future, remind me to not step foot in sports related threads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 I saw that coming – but I’m not here to bitch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Off topic - is it just me, or does it appear as though Del Potro has the longest arms in tennis? At one point, Federer was dashing back and forth, hitting what would normally be winners, playing every conceivable angle - meanwhile, here’s Potro, standing nearly still, effortlessly returning everything Federer could throw at him. His forehand took care of just about everything Federer threw at him. Incredible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
watch me fall Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Plus, he's hot. Juan Martin, I mean. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Plus, he's hot. Juan Martin, I mean.you like bad teeth? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moxiebean Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 you like bad teeth?or dudes that look like Glenn Frey? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 It would have been a lot cooler if she ate the ball and then smashed her racket over her head before throwing the broken racket at the line judge and spitting the chewed up ball all over the court. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 I can't argue with that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
watch me fall Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 or dudes that look like Glenn Frey? Really? I didn't get that comparison. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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watch me fall Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I still don't think Glenn Frye when I see the guy. Maybe that's because I can't stand Frye. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I see Ryan from The Office. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I see Ryan from The Office. Yep. While watching with the wife, I commented that every time they showed him, that guy who used to be an intern on The Office flashed through my brain. (quickly exists sports related thread) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 "It's the politics of contraband, the smuggler's bloooooos." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 "It's the politics of contraband, the smuggler's bloooooos." I actually searched "frey smuggler" to find that pic. Truth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I actually searched "frey smuggler" to find that pic. Truth. Ol' Glenn's tennis look-a-like-ness spans the ages. "Glenn Frey" returns this result: Which looks sort of like this dude: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I keep thinking this thread is referring to Serena as an immature bratwurst. Which would suck for her. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I actually searched "frey smuggler" to find that pic. Truth.Sadly, Del Potro is going to have to stick that thing up his ass to avoid paying the steep Argentinian trophy import duty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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