ZenLunatic Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Just realized Dec 25th is not really Jesus' birthday. They say it's more likely in the Autumn time like September. Did most people already know this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Well the Orthodox church celebrates Christmas in January. I don't think anyone really has the date or even the year pinned down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 If I recall correctly some stuff I read decades ago, the date of Christmas was deliberately timed to supplant pagan winter solstice celebrations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 If I recall correctly some stuff I read decades ago, the date of Christmas was deliberately timed to supplant pagan winter solstice celebrations. And yet, still with the trees. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gogo Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Old habits die hard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZenLunatic Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 If I recall correctly some stuff I read decades ago, the date of Christmas was deliberately timed to supplant pagan winter solstice celebrations. found this: http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/was-jesus-born-on-december-25-faq.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 my birthday is December 27th. I wish Jesus would give me a break and move his back to whenever Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZenLunatic Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 Happy Chanukah to all the Jewish people out there in VC world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Birth certificates are hard to come by from that era. Strange that he wasn't thoughtful enough to be born on Jan 1, year zero. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 The thing that's always puzzled me is the Immaculate Conception is on my birthday (Dec. 8), and yet it only took 17 days after that for the baby J to be born. Someone please explain this to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 What, you think the Son of God can't gestate in two and a half weeks? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 The thing that's always puzzled me is the Immaculate Conception is on my birthday (Dec. 8), and yet it only took 17 days after that for the baby J to be born. Someone please explain this to me. The Immaculate Conception actually refers to Mary being conceived without any original sin. Thank you 9 years of Catholic school! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Well the Orthodox church celebrates Christmas in January. I don't think anyone really has the date or even the year pinned down. greeks and macedonians are both Orthodox, but the greeks celelbrate on december 25, whereas we wait til Jan 7th - what gives?!?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 greeks and macedonians are both Orthodox, but the greeks celelbrate on december 25, whereas we wait til Jan 7th - what gives?!?!Greeks converted from the Julian calendar to the Gregorian calendar late, and moved the holiday accordingly. The others converted to the Gregorian calendar, but kept the holidays on the old days post conversion... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plasticeyeball Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 The thing that's always puzzled me is the Immaculate Conception is on my birthday (Dec. 8), and yet it only took 17 days after that for the baby J to be born. Someone please explain this to me. immaculate conception is when mary was conceived. (by her mother), and like ikol said, refers to her being born without original sin. when she became magically pregnant is called the annunciation which is supposed to be march 25th i'm pretty sure, which lands nicely at somewhere between 39 and 40 weeks before december 25th. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I remember my 8th grade CCD teacher trying to have us relate to Joseph's situation when Mary was pregnant. Something like "imagine what that must've looked like to people!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Honestly I think the church just made up a bunch of dates and myths to match them. No way a lady gets pregnant without doin' it. Y'all are suckers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 No way a lady gets pregnant without doin' it. Tell that to Shmi Skywalker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plasticeyeball Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Honestly I think the church just made up a bunch of dates and myths to match them. No way a lady gets pregnant without doin' it. Y'all are suckers. my invitro twins beg to differ. i bet they knew how to do that back in the day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Honestly I think the church just made up a bunch of dates and myths to match them. No way a lady gets pregnant without doin' it. Y'all are suckers.Edit: This is Good Old Neon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 immaculate conception is when mary was conceived. (by her mother), and like ikol said, refers to her being born without original sin. when she became magically pregnant is called the annunciation which is supposed to be march 25th i'm pretty sure, which lands nicely at somewhere between 39 and 40 weeks before december 25th.Many thanks to both you & Ikol - I honestly did not know this. I was baptised Catholic, but I've never spent a day in the Catholic Church that didn't involve a wedding or a funeral. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Greeks converted from the Julian calendar to the Gregorian calendar late, and moved the holiday accordingly. The others converted to the Gregorian calendar, but kept the holidays on the old days post conversion... its cool being macedonian orthodox - at easter, the eggs are cheaper, and at christmas, we can use the boxing day sales for cheaper presents!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 I was baptised Catholic, but I've never spent a day in the Catholic Church that didn't involve a wedding or a funeral or a baptism.Fixed it for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Honestly I think the church just made up a bunch of dates and myths to match them. No way a lady gets pregnant without doin' it. Y'all are suckers. I always thought the whole thing came about due to a conversation between Mary and Joseph: Mary: "So it looks like I'm pregnant! Isn't that exciting?"Joseph: "But you and I never did it yet."Mary: "Right, it was that other guy."Joseph: "So you cheated on me??"Mary: "Yes... no... I mean... it wasn't just any old guy... it was... uh... um... God.. yeah, that's it... it was God Himself. So it's not like I had any choice in the matter. I mean, when the Supreme Being wants to have a child, you pretty much have to go with the flow."Joseph: "Of course! That explains everything. Sorry for doubting you for a minute there." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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