CortezTheKiller Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 The Rolling Stones didn't take long to go beyond their influences, though. Also, they wrote incredibly good songs - even the ones that aped older styles (which is totally fine, by the way - when it's done well). The Black Keys write "ok" to "good" songs, they aren't gonna make you wet or anything, let's be honest. If I had to describe the album, i'd not mention soul in any way at all, as I wouldn't call any of it soul or soul influenced. The songs are essentially the same as all their other albums, but the production has changed to sound like whatever that Amy Winehouse/Danger Mouse/Mark Ronson so called 60s pop/soul sound is called. Has it got a name yet?Basically, I can't imagine Dave Godin looking at this music and seeing any kind of link with soul music. I'm not trying to slag it off too much here, cos I think it's ok. I'd listen to it, and have listened to it. But, I only hear Amy Winehouse etc in it, certainly not James Carr or anything. Actually, those of you who think it sounds like soul: who or what soul music are you actually talking about?I agree with you regarding The Stones. They were strongly influenced by the blues, but they made it into something uniquely their own. I love The Keys, but their songwriting is not in the same league as The Glimmer Twins. If a song makes me wet, then I'm probably blind drunk, have pissed myself, and, ultimately, it was not the song's doing in the first place. I think I know your position on The Black Key's music. Personally, I disagree with it. I think they craft some outstanding songs. I am a bit confused as to where your argument is going. This all started by you claiming the new album sounded like a modern take on 60's soul music which sounds nothing like 60's soul music. Yet above you state, "If I had to describe the album, I'd not mention soul in any way at all, as I wouldn't call any of it soul or soul influenced." You brought "soul" into the discussion with your initial critique. You may think it is bad soul, but you brought soul into the discussion. As far as it sounding just like their previous work, just with different production, I think you are way off. You bring up Danger Mouse again, but as solace has pointed out several times, he produced only one of the fifteen tracks on the record - Tighten Up. Their last two albums are certainly more produced than their first four albums and EP, but it's still Auerbach and Carney. While the new album is still uniquely Black Keys, it has a different vibe than their earlier stuff. It is soulful. But it also bluesy, funky, greasy, raunchy, and kicks all kinds of ass. Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 great music is great music despite it's originality or authenticity. if Brothers doesn't turn your crank, so be it, but it's kicking plenty of our asses, even long time Keys fans Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I agree with you regarding The Stones. They were strongly influenced by the blues, but they made it into something uniquely their own. I love The Keys, but their songwriting is not in the same league as The Glimmer Twins. If a song makes me wet, then I'm probably blind drunk, have pissed myself, and, ultimately, it was not the song's doing in the first place. I think I know your position on The Black Key's music. Personally, I disagree with it. I think they craft some outstanding songs. I am a bit confused as to where your argument is going. This all started by you claiming the new album sounded like a modern take on 60's soul music which sounds nothing like 60's soul music. Yet above you state, "If I had to describe the album, I'd not mention soul in any way at all, as I wouldn't call any of it soul or soul influenced." You brought "soul" into the discussion with your initial critique. You may think it is bad soul, but you brought soul into the discussion. As far as it sounding just like their previous work, just with different production, I think you are way off. You bring up Danger Mouse again, but as solace has pointed out several times, he produced only one of the fifteen tracks on the record - Tighten Up. Their last two albums are certainly more produced than their first four albums and EP, but it's still Auerbach and Carney. While the new album is still uniquely Black Keys, it has a different vibe than their earlier stuff. It is soulful. But it also bluesy, funky, greasy, raunchy, and kicks all kinds of ass. when i said "60's soul music, which sounds nothing like 60's soul music" or whatever i said - i was kind of quoting how people talk about that sound, and then the second part (the sounding nothing like 60s soul music part) is my personal opinion on that notion. does that make sense? i only mentioned danger mouse again due to the fact it sounds like his work or any of those other people i mentioned, i wasn't trying to say mark ronson & amy winehouse worked on the album, either. np. Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 yeah... i dunno when you saw them last, but as of last week they're a full on hard rockin' 3-piece now, it's quite a change from the record. it's good mind you, but it's very different. Great show last night and you are right, pretty rockin'. They make a lot of noise for a 3 piece. Made me like the album even more hearing it that way. Opening band "Phantogram" was also surpisingly good. Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 yeah, Phantogram are pretty cool... even if i'd just rather see Handsome Furs at our show about 150 people were there just to see them and left before The Antlers even came on stage, it sucked Sarah from Phantogram is soooo hot Link to post Share on other sites
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PopTodd Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 just arrived, and jumping to the front of the queue: Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I am apparently the only person in America that likes this album. Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Sarah from Phantogram is soooo hot Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I am apparently the only person in America that likes this album. i like it too, but def a step down from Parc Avenue for me Link to post Share on other sites
PopTodd Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Brinsley Schwarz - Cruel To Be Kind (BBC Sessions)Johnny Cash - At San QuentinP.M. Dawn - Dearest Christian... Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Whoa, the new MIA video streaming on Pitchfork is quite graphic. I like the song though. Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Whoa, the new MIA video streaming on Pitchfork is quite graphic. I like the song though. yeah? i think it sounds like a pretty generic attempt at a punk song (albeit with the Suicide sample). then again she's never done much for me besides 3-4 songs i suppose. Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 yeah? i think it sounds like a pretty generic attempt at a punk song (albeit with the Suicide sample). then again she's never done much for me besides 3-4 songs i suppose. Actually I'm not that sure! I was pretty distracted by the video. The song just seemed kind of psychedelic or something, I didn't really think of it as punky. Maybe I should listen again. There is something I like about MIA, seems a cut above a lot of the stuff in that genre but then again, I am a very casual listener. Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 it does fit in the context of the video (which is fairly cool, if not a bit over sensationalized), but i heard the song on it's own (it's obviously shorter) and wasn't very impressed. Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Just got turned onto Jim Campilongo! ... I finally gave a listen and I was really blown away. I just got into him, too. I first heard him on the Little Willies cd. There are several really good Jim Campilongo videos on Youtube where he demonstrates some of his playing techniques/equipment. Here's one: Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Whoa, the new MIA video streaming on Pitchfork is quite graphic. I like the song though. i actually thought the video was a great mix of humour and a few shocks (when the young kid got shot in the head was a bit jolting). it reminded me of something chris morris might do (who is a british satarist edit: he's got a film out real soon called which looks really really brilliant). i started off thinking, oh no - this is just the same old moaning at US foreign policy kind of video, and then as soon as the kid got on the bus i burst out laughing. the song's alright, but she's done better - although i have only listened once - it is a nice change of style, though. Link to post Share on other sites
Gobias Industries Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 i actually thought the video was a great mix of humour and a few shocks (when the young kid got shot in the head was a bit jolting). it reminded me of something chris morris might do (who is a british satarist edit: he's got a film out real soon called which looks really really brilliant). i started off thinking, oh no - this is just the same old moaning at US foreign policy kind of video, and then as soon as the kid got on the bus i burst out laughing. the song's alright, but she's done better - although i have only listened once - it is a nice change of style, though. Yeah, the video is really brutal and direct, but that's the point. Also serves as a crazy political message. I'm a fan of the song a whole lot, the video a little less so, just because it's rather...odd. Link to post Share on other sites
cooperissup3r Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 outside of the title track and "Old Haunts", this thing is a bit of a stinker. Link to post Share on other sites
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