lamradio Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 This list made me chuckle. Some of the commentary is just brutal.. http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2012/08/worst_hipster_bands_all_time_c.php Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kidsmoke Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Much of it is brutally honest! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
augurus Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 If by brutal, you mean very very incorrect, and I'm not even talking about their opinions, but facts. I find these reviews more pretentious than the actual bands themselves. What's even sadder is that I can't even pick up a lick of sarcasm as hard as I try. As Linda Richman might say, they're neither about beaches nor house music. Discuss.How is this a discussion point? The supposed "soul"-indie fusion of their early workYou named it soul, not them. You also labeled it indie, not them. Way strawman them arguments. Also, Alexis Krauss started wearing her own band merch at shows, which you're really only allowed to do if you're Morrissey.Obviously great and penetrating critique on the music itself. It's so blunt and penetrating. Man, if Pitchfork needs to sharpen up their hate, they should pick it up from these haters. They spend more time on expensive and fastidious arrangements than choruses, which they sound annoyed to have to throw in occasionally.All songs should be one eternal never-ending chorus, forever. I can just imagine it now. "Oops, I did it again. Oops, I did it again. Oops, I did it again." Just more people trying to put down popular things to gain popularity. Seen that shit in high school.If they're trying to pat themselves on the back, they're doing a good job. If they're trying to write an auto-biography and project it onto other musical figures, they're doing it very well. This is the exact type of manufactured shit that keeps top 40 monotonous. This circular thinking. Man, if only my mind were that simple. EDIT: Deriving humor from things that are false doesn't work. Please examine Stephen Colbert, Jon Steward, Louis C.K., and more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stooka Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I thought it odd The Black Keys were included.Fun read though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ih8music Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I find these reviews more pretentious than the actual bands themselves. Agree. The only thing worse than "hipsters" are people continually whining about "hipsters" and how they dress, what they listen to, etc. It's ironic how they're complaining about the very same type of snobbery they're demonstrating with their own words. Just relax and let people enjoy what they enjoy. Or let them pretend to enjoy what they think is popular/cool/whatever with their social group... it's not the first time this has happened and it's not the end of the world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Three posts to butt hurt. Not a record, but close. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Pretty much spot on. I took this article as more satire rather than the god's honest truth. It was fun to read. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 they forgot my morning jacket, radiohead, band of horses and the national i like Sleigh Bells. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 This is the exact type of manufactured shit that keeps top 40 monotonous. This circular thinking. Man, if only my mind were that simple. EDIT: Deriving humor from things that are false doesn't work. Please examine Stephen Colbert, Jon Steward, Louis C.K., and more. this last sentence--pot kettle black. no one's innocent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Hey they are just trying to make a living. (Bon Iver though, yea pretty much correct.) Luckily from working at Pitchfork the last few years I have encountered most of thse bands so I don't feel totally out of it. (Meanwhile LA Weeklly needs an award for the most code heavy website ever.) LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lamradio Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 Yeah, I liked Bon Iver when he came out with his first EP.. And he was great live opening for Wilco in a room of about 50 people.. But when he started working with Kanye, it was all down hill from there.. And I agree, Black Keys shouldn't be on that list. They may be a hipster band to some, but they kick ass way too much to be labeled as a "worst hipster band". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
makeshift Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I kind of agree with all of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 The probelm is that if these are the worst groups (I liked Beach House this year at Pitchfork, though I knew nothing about them) then who are the good ones? LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 EDIT: Deriving humor from things that are false doesn't work. Please examine Stephen Colbert, Jon Steward, Louis C.K., and more. I think all three of those men are particularly funny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 The probelm is that if these are the worst groups (I liked Beach House this year at Pitchfork, though I knew nothing about them) then who are the good ones? That's a good question. It is certainly easier and more comfortable to indict the artistic shortcomings of a band than to defend them. Especially when your nose is high in the air. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
augurus Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I think all three of those men are particularly funny.Yes, they are very funny. I'm saying examine as in "please study the following comedians before you try to assert your voice in disastrously horrible comedy where you have no control of English, or language, or vowels." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Queen Amaranthine Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Death Cab for Cutie is great, until after a few songs you realize that they are all pretty much the same song/tune with different lyrics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Wilco gets the #2 spot on the same blog's "Top 20 Whitest Musicians of All Time" list! http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2012/05/top_20_whitest_of_all-time_com.php?page=7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Snarky is the new insightful. Remember when music journalism wasn't a total oxymoron? Remember Lester Bangs? Remember Greil Marcus, Mikal Gilmore and Dave Marsh before they Ossified? Now, people who write about music want to see how cute and snarky they can be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shakespeare In The Alley Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 i think youre confusing tongue in cheek/snarky blog posts designed to get web hits with music journalism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 i think youre confusing tongue in cheek/snarky blog posts designed to get web hits with music journalism. Same animal, different stripe. The buggy whip factory that is the hard copy music magaine/newspaper have been pushed to irrelevancy with the anarchy of the interwebs. These guys want web hits just like the magazines and newspapers wanted to sell you printed paper. It just makes me feel like an old man railing against 'progress' when it is in fact 'regress'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lamradio Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 i think youre confusing tongue in cheek/snarky blog posts designed to get web hits with music journalism. That's why I've never really been big into music journalism. Crow is right. Most of it is very snarky and they all seem to follow the same cliche's. I mean, I don't think anyone at Pitchfork has an anus. At least they don't think they do... When deciding to purchase an album, I either come here or skip right to the comments sections of album reviews.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nebulance Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Wilco gets the #2 spot on the same blog's "Top 20 Whitest Musicians of All Time" list! http://blogs.laweekl..._com.php?page=7 That's possibly one of the most over-simplified views of an artist I've ever read. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Yes, they are very funny. I'm saying examine as in "please study the following comedians before you try to assert your voice in disastrously horrible comedy where you have no control of English, or language, or vowels." Ah ha. Got it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 That's why I've never really been big into music journalism. Crow is right. Most of it is very snarky and they all seem to follow the same cliche's. I mean, I don't think anyone at Pitchfork has an anus. At least they don't think they do... When deciding to purchase an album, I either come here or skip right to the comments sections of album reviews.. It's true. I can see a level of snarkiness, or analness, might be a response to the deluge of artists. People trying to filter through a sea of new albums might feel more effective by being pickier, and therefore more cynical. It seems the best music journalism warrants another listen after reading the review. It might bring up points to enhance, or challenge the listening experience. Some writers at Pitchfork seem pretty good at that. If anything a site like Pitchfork gets picked on because of their cultural relevance. People resent a false pretext that what Pitchfork says is necessarily true. It's kind of like that old forum argument of wanting people to qualify every strong opinion on music with a couple IMO's, or IMHO's. I'm sure there are plenty of other, snottier, music blogs.... like this top 20 one. Which makes some good points, but maybe decided to weaponize snark. That's what seems to draw people in. That's what can pass for authority. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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