ih8music Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Three teenage boys kill man for the fun of it. How long before Al Sharpton demands justice and President Obama likens the victim to his son? Oh wait ... Add in the fact that a former deputy prime minister of Australia has called for a boycott of the United States by Australian tourists, and that he blames the NRA for the murder, and you have quite a confluence of bull crap. As if the punk kids were future NRA members who would be deterred by laws and regulations ... If you really don't see the difference in these stories then I truly feel sorry for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hixter Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 you are sounding just plain crazy!!What did I say that was crazy? This case is nothing like the Trayvon Martin one.Person shoots person of another race? Check.Politician gets involved and runs his mouth in order to politicize the event? Check.The NRA is blamed for the killing? Check. If you really don't see the difference in these stories then I truly feel sorry for you. Of course there's a difference, and this crime is a thousand times worse than the Trayvon Martin incident. Cold-blooded murder with racial undertones, but see how much traction it'll get in the media. They'll concentrate on the anti-gun, anti-NRA aspect of the story while avoiding the race issue and the fact that the African-American community has a huge problem with guns and gun crime and it's not because of the NRA and its members. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Probably because the only crime he was guilty of, up until he allegedly assaulted Zimmerman, was Walking while Black. So you don't see any problem equating the two people? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 So you don't see any problem equating the two people?Where is this happening? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-mural-shows-george-zimmerman-shooting-trayvon-martin-article-1.1423940 http://now.msn.com/trayvon-martin-shown-with-martin-luther-kings-face-in-photo-tweeted-by-civil-rights-activist-van-jones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Those of us who don't particularly like guns, don't like anyone getting shot, no matter if the gun is legal or illegal, etc. Now the convo here has just plain turned weird. Very weird. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hixter Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Now the convo here has just plain turned weird. Very weird. What's weird about it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 So you don't see any problem equating the two people?Yeah, I don't think any sane person is saying Trayvon Martin was another MLK. The point is that civil rights in our country still has a long way to go. And those involved in the movement probably view Trayvon as being a martyr on some level, just as MLK was. Like Louie said, those of us who don't particularly like guns, don't like anyone getting shot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-mural-shows-george-zimmerman-shooting-trayvon-martin-article-1.1423940 http://now.msn.com/trayvon-martin-shown-with-martin-luther-kings-face-in-photo-tweeted-by-civil-rights-activist-van-jones I don’t want to rehash the whole Travon Martin thing, but can someone explain to me why he (Martin) is being equated to Dr. Martin Luther King and his importance to the civil rights movement? Looks like it was because the artists of the photo and the mural are exploiting a tragedy to gain attention. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Those of us who don't particularly like guns, don't like anyone getting shot, no matter if the gun is legal or illegal, etc.Wait, so people who like guns like it when people get shot? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Wait, so people who like guns like it when people get shot?Didn't say that. I don't know what people who like guns like, because I am not really one of those people. I didn't bring up this issue again; ask Hixter what his point is. Murals are art just like anything else, take it or leave it. King in a hoodie is kind of goofy though, but that is just my opinion. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I agree that it's kind of goofy, FWIW. I don't believe that the artist's intent was to equate Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old juvenile delinquent, with arguably the greatest figure of the civil rights movement. I suspect that the artist's intent was based on King's quote about a day when his children would be judged "not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." Seems that most supporters of the Martin family believe that the boy was profiled because of his skin color. Pretty simple leap there. And clearly, we have not yet reached that day, and may never. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Another difference is that those kids in Oklahoma are stupid. I don't think Zimmerman is stupid. At least not as stupid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tweedling Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Too bad this lady seems to be a bad shot.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRvKQySyT9U Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hixter Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Too bad this lady seems to be a bad shot.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRvKQySyT9UThis old man did a better job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I'm surprised Johnny Cash has not been brought up in the Oklahoma shooting. After all, did he not sing "I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tweedling Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 So UPS isn't fond of Obama care. They are no longer offering spousal coverage. It's becoming a little alarming as time goes by and deadlines aren't met. but seriously, is this law an albatross? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 So UPS isn't fond of Obama care. They are no longer offering spousal coverage. It's becoming a little alarming as time goes by and deadlines aren't met. but seriously, is this law an albatross?I think Obamacare is more of a convenient scapegoat for employers to cut costs. According to the study (that UPS used) ACA will raise healthcare by 11% (the normal is 5%). But by cutting spouses UPS is prolly saving money on healthcare costs and something they planned to do regardless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hixter Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Three teenage boys kill man for the fun of it. How long before Al Sharpton demands justice and President Obama likens the victim to his son? Oh wait ...At least Jesse Jackson has stepped up to the plate and strongly condemned frowned upon the man's murder. I guess we can expect a tweet from Al Sharpton describing the murder as being "in poor taste" any minute now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Yeah "frowned upon" seems like a weirdly soft judgement of a murder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tweedling Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I think Obamacare is more of a convenient scapegoat for employers to cut costs. According to the study (that UPS used) ACA will raise healthcare by 11% (the normal is 5%). But by cutting spouses UPS is prolly saving money on healthcare costs and something they planned to do regardless.Maybe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IRememberDBoon Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 this racist white against black against white murder crap started by FoxNews is as about as disgusting as it can possibly get. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hixter Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 this racist white against black against white murder crap started by FoxNews is as about as disgusting as it can possibly get.One of the murderers posted tweets about hating white people, so it's very likely that race had something to do with the killing. The media did their best to paint Zimmerman as a white racist, going so far as to edit his call to the police and declaring that he'd uttered a racist epithet, despite the fact that he wasn't white and African-American friends and neighbors swore that he wasn't a racist. Hell, he's part black himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 At times I think IRDB and Hixter are the same poster - which is fine and kinda of cool if you had the time to post the views of what each talking box wants. Perhaps they are both VC's mods creations to stimulate conversation. It's tiresome, though - especially in this thread. Anyway still watching Heartworn Highways and man there is a lot of guns (and whiskey) in the flick and it's fuckin great - so guns can't be that bad, I guess.. The President had a nice speech today - hopefully this whole college thing can be figured out - It's been 16 years since i left school -my parents bared the brunt of my and my brother's tuition to at state school (SIU), we worked when we could and paid some of the tuition, as they did (dad- union factory job - mom - AVON and crossing guard), too --- middle class -- none of us had to go in debt----- at the cost today, it would have been impossible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hixter Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Everything I posted is 100% true. I'm surprised that you can't tell us apart, since my posts are friendly, polite and never filled with the "such-and-such party is nothing but morons" schtick that IRDB spews at every opportunity. I don't treat politics like it's a Yankees vs. Red Sox rivalry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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