Winston Legthigh Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 brilliant: Well, you see, the Earth is spinning, ok? And the Sun is over here, and while it may look like the sun is disappearing into the horizon, it's just that the Earth is spinning away from the sun's light, like this, see? So you see how this part of the earth is in darkness, and this part is facing the sun? Great. OK! And so, ... wait ... "their"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twoshedsjackson Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/messages-from-creationists-to-people-who-believe-in-evolutio Yikes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 One thing that people most often do not take into account when discussing evolution v creationism is time. When you only have 6,000 years to deal with there just is not enough time for evolution to occur. However when dealing with 6,000,000,000 years there is ample enough time to have billions and billions of genetic mutations occurring successfully and unsuccessfully. As to what came before the Big Bang? Who knows. One theory is that there have been multiple big bangs and multiple universe collapses occurring over and over. When dealing with god and the universe there is always the questions about what happened the day before the Big Bang or what is outside the universe.empty time and space? Or a supreme being controlling it all? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I've engaged a young earth creationists high school acquaintance quite a bit on this subject for the past 24 hours and it's only served to depress me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SarahC Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I believe that evolution and God support each other. I identify as a Christian. BUT I also believe that our perception of the "6 days" the Earth was created in is totally wrong, not literal in the slightest, because how the fuck are we to know what God's timeline is? A day to God could be 6 million years on our time table. That's just how I see it- and unfortunately, because of where I live, and the narrow-mindedness of the conservative church, several of my "friends" decided I was going to hell and stopped hanging out. It's tricky business. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 When Pat Robertson calls you crazy, you've got some serious fucking issues. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/05/pat-robertson-implores-creationist-ken-ham-to-shut-up-lets-not-make-a-joke-of-ourselves/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 seems awfully closed-minded not to accept the possibility that someone might have had an experience that makes her rationally believe in the existence of a god as surely as someone else rationally believes in the scientific evidence of evolution. But that right there was the most important point Nye made. Belief in God, or even Jesus for that matter has been sustainable for millions of people who understand and accept the basic tenants of our natural history as well as astronomy. The close-mindedness can come from either side here, but the insistence that any factual knowledge that challenges a literal interpretation of an ancient myth must be wrong is the most damaging to the progress of both science and religion. There is a challenge to modern spirituality that some people can't reconcile. If you live in a world of literal biblical interpretations with a patriarchal, anthropomorphic, wrathful God figure, then a trip to the planetarium to watch a presentation on black holes can send you into a spin of cognitive dissonance. The palette of explanation of the former begins to feel utterly quaint in comparison to the revelations of the latter. All of this can be more comfortably assimilated (although it's still challenging) with a critical understanding of the philosophical application of biblical text. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I've had a spiritual experience or two, and I know that there is a higher power, but I've received no instructions as to his/her/its banking needs or views on abortion or twerking. I also think it's interesting that for such a fundamentalist Christian nation we're viewed by much of the world as one of the laziest, most materialistic and depraved places on the planet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 You really have to be nuts not to believe in God. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/messages-from-creationists-to-people-who-believe-in-evolutio As scary as these signs are, I wonder how many people they got to write something down compared to the ones they put up in the article. I doubt only 22 were asked. Also all of the males had some sort of facial hair. I find that weird. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Caucasian Jesus had facial hair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Jesus himself wasn't even a Christian. How can anyone trust him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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PopTodd Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 But who or what created "God"? Or are we to believe that God just appeared out of the nothingness? Is that easier to believe than the big bang miraculously happening? Either way you look at it, something is coming from nothing at some point down the line...Dig it.God is what you make of it/him/her/them/agdlkjhzcga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Caucasian Jesus had facial hair. Had a huge arguement with a buddy of mine about the way Jesus looked. He is an extremely orthodox Catholic (doesn't follow the edicts of Vatican II, all his masses are in Latin, etc.) So I was talking about some Discovery channel show about how Jesus really looked. You know dark skin, short curlyish hair, close cropped beard (if any beard at all). Basically the look of someone lived in the Middle East 2000 years ago. Anyway he freaked out at me, and said the pictures that he was shown in HIS Church, were how Jesus really looked. We got into a big argument about it, at one point he called the Discovery Channel show a Jewish plot to make Jesus Jewish (the irony was not lost on me, but it was him). Needless to say, I kinda kept my distant from him after that. People are really weird about religion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twoshedsjackson Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 You really have to be nuts not to believe in God.Which one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Your inner light. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Face it as science has the ability to answer more and more questions regarding the world around us and the universe the less mystery there is for faith to answer. It's all a matter of how the bible is interpreted but I've long believed that "god" and "satan " reside within all of us and that people far more clever than me have co-opted the notion of god, good and evil etc... So thoroughly through the ages that reconciling the known and the unknown could be nearly possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twoshedsjackson Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Your inner light.But which inner light? Presumably each religion has it's own? That's a lot of gods. I'll stick with logic, reality and proven facts, thanks.Does your "inner light" direct you to call people who don't share your superstitions "nuts"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Oh calm the fuck down asshole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twoshedsjackson Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Oh calm the fuck down asshole.Aw, someone's inner light isn't working... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 You fucking pigfucker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Man, I am a dick. Sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I thought god was Alanis Morissette. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Likely Satan took Sir Stewart over momentarily. Which only proves that there is a "God". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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