jw harding Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Listening to 01 December 1971 Boston... At the 3:22 point of the second Other One (following Me & My Uncle)Weir performs the opening notes to Weather Report Suite...is this the earliest version of WRSuite? https://archive.org/details/gd1971-12-01.sbd.set2.fixed.miller.76424.flac16Couldn't hear it. Just sounded like some noodling. Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 It's there, very subtle in the background, but Bobby definitely plays that opening sequence Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
winterland121072 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Weather Report Suite prelude also appeared during the Dark Star of 11.19.1972... Interesting - Weir must have been working on this for years before finalizing it... Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Isn't there other examples of this (melodies played during tunes/jams prior to official tunes procured) --- I am drawing a blank, though. Need to listen to 01 December 1971 Boston, again -- i didn't catch any of the WR when I listened to it last night... Link to post Share on other sites
winterland121072 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 it lasts about 3 seconds but it definitely is there... Link to post Share on other sites
IRememberDBoon Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 speaking of bits or teases of songs I think I remember a Supplication tease in Kansas (??) in either 1990 or 91..........Having only started seeing them in 87 I wanted to hear a Lazy Lighting and/or Supplication SOOOOOOOOOO bad but I swear if I remember correctly (I was on like the 10th row) the entire rest of the band started playing it and Weir literally went and sat in front of the drums as if to say "Aint no way" and they segued into some Jerry tune. I cant remember exactly how it went down but as far as I know that is the first and last Supplication since like 83 or something maybe?? Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 OK, heard it. Good catch. Comes on at about 3:14 - 3:20. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Speaking of teases, just wondering if anyone else has caught the full band tease of New Speedway during the Smokestack from Bears Choice? Caught that just a few years back, had never noticed it before. The whole band slides right into it for a few bars, the music is pretty similar to Smokestack, so it's hardly noticeable. Pretty shocking discovery for me, it had been hiding there all those years. Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Listening to 01 December 1971 Boston... At the 3:22 point of the second Other One (following Me & My Uncle)Weir performs the opening notes to Weather Report Suite...is this the earliest version of WRSuite? https://archive.org/details/gd1971-12-01.sbd.set2.fixed.miller.76424.flac16Yes. I just listened to that show earlier this week and it's definitely there for just a second or two. Not enough to label it as such but I heard it. And I'm glad you brought that show up - that Other One has Phil at his very best. He gets WAAAAY out there. Everybody in this thread go and listen! It's amazing stuff! Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Isn't there other examples of this (melodies played during tunes/jams prior to official tunes procured) --- I am drawing a blank, though. Need to listen to 01 December 1971 Boston, again -- i didn't catch any of the WR when I listened to it last night...There were a number of bits & pieces of Slipknot in some of those Summer '74 jams. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 11/8/69, Dick's Picks 16, they tease Uncle John's for 2 minutes in the Dark Star. Very cool, same melody, but different tempo, more mariachi feel. Link to post Share on other sites
HungryHippo Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 11/8/69, Dick's Picks 16, they tease Uncle John's for 2 minutes in the Dark Star. Very cool, same melody, but different tempo, more mariachi feel.That was the first Dark Star> The Other One I ever listened to and it's one mean sounding segue. When they're out exploring on a Dark Star, the last thing you'd expect them to play next is TOO. And then there's an UJB jam sandwiched in the middle! This is, by far, my favorite '69 recording. Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Dusted off my 2-24-74 Winterland discs today. That Dark Star>Dew is something to behold. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Listening to Jim Lauderdale's 'Carolina Moonrise" this evening - Hunter co-wrote the songs --- all the Lauderdale/Hunter releases are well worth a listen. Actually any of Lauderdale's stuff is worth listening to. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 http://www.boulderweekly.com/article-14082-ladies-and-gentlemen-not-the-grateful-dead.html Wow. A detailed look into what happened with the mail order situation for Soldier Field. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Not many details other than one fan who apparently is clueless as to what is involved in putting on large scale concerts, is pissed Trey was chosen, and got shut out of tickets. Deadheads can be such an insuferrable entitled bunch of self-righteous hippies. This event should only happen on my terms and conform to my view of what the Grateful Dead is, which is the only correct perspective! Bunch of fucking cry babies. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Not many details other than one fan who apparently is clueless as to what is involved in putting on large scale concerts, is pissed Trey was chosen, and got shut out of tickets. Deadheads can be such an insuferrable entitled bunch of self-righteous hippies. This event should only happen on my terms and conform to my view of what the Grateful Dead is, which is the only correct perspective! Bunch of fucking cry babies.Ha, no shit. That Boulder Weekly article is noise, too. So sick of the bitching on the 80s fb page/elsewhere. Pay up and go (or try to) or shut up and stay home. Whiners that have tix and whiners that don't want tix and whiners without tix that think they may have wanted tix but aren't 100% sure if they would even use the tix because Jerry is dead and if they had the tix could they bear Trey and on and on and on and on. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Yeah -- sour grapes - I'd say. Plus I can't fault Bears' season ticket holders for selling off their tickets for what ever they can get -- they are ones who have to suffer watching the Bears play during the season - they should be able recoup their costs. Plus who want's to listen to a Jerry sound-a-like. Trey is an interesting choice -- look forward to see what he can do with the tunes. That 'No Simple Highway' book dispels that whole notion that the Dead wanted to give away their music for free, etc....Lot's of quotes by Garcia and the rest of the band to back it up. I agree about the whole 'insufferable entitled self-righteous hippies', too. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I know several people who are Deadheads that got their tickets via the Bears pre-sale. Close friend's father in law has season tix, and he was able to score 6 floor for each night. Offered me some, but it's too much for me too pull off, prefer to watch at home. There are a lot of Bears fans who are also Deadheads, both fanbases party their faces off. Some will be resold, but I think the majority of season ticket holders know some Deadhead that is dying to get tix and is going to hook them up. Season ticket holders may have had an advantage in getting tix - some were shut out of that too - but there would be a similar group with an advantage at any venue. That's just how things work when money is involved, not everything is perfectly fair and square in life. Most people learned that a long time ago. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Nothing really new in it - but below is new interview with Hunter ---- hopefully Hunter and Barlow make some type of an appearance at Soldier field. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/robert-hunter-on-grateful-deads-early-days-wild-tours-sacred-songs-20150309?page=5 Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I dunno, I thought this sounded like a fair (though admittedly passionate) assessment: You’ve received payment in the form of money orders from true, envelopedecorating, tradition-following fans for 300,000 tickets, have only 210,000 to sell, and you’re still going to be selling tickets online through Ticketmaster? In other words, you’re going to sell some of the tickets that have already been purchased by true Deadheads so that Ticketmaster can receive its cut. But it gets worse when you examine just how many tickets were held for Ticketmaster and other middleman partners to sell. It was announced through multiple sources last Wednesday that only 10 percent of the mail orders are being filled out of deference to the need to save tickets for sale through Ticketmaster, et al. Let’s do the math: 300,000 tickets were purchased through the mail order, but they’re only going to sell 30,000 of those tickets so they can sell 180,000 tickets through other avenues that more generously line the pockets of big music industry players. I don't see that as necessarily entitled, whiny cry-baby material. It actually sucks, and makes me feel bad for all those who got shut out. Seems like they should have just waited for Ticketbastard, rather than buying money orders and hoping for the best. I couldn't care less, either, having decided as soon as the shows were announced that there is no way I would spend money to travel to Chicago for a stadium show featuring the "core four." But hey, if people go, and they dig it, good for them. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I think the ticketmaster monopoly on selling concert tickets has been firmly established as a reality of the concert industry that there is no way of getting around. It sucks, but what rock have some of these people been hiding under for the past 30 years? Let's just magically break all sorts of contracts and keep all the tickets for true Deadheads. YEA! Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I think the ticketmaster monopoly on selling concert tickets has been firmly established as a reality of the concert industry that there is no way of getting around. It sucks, but what rock have some of these people been hiding under for the past 30 years? Let's just magically break all sorts of contracts and keep all the tickets for true Deadheads. YEA!That's why I felt sorry for them. I really suspect that a lot of people who mail ordered have not been to a major rock concert since 1995 or earlier. Seriously. When was the last time any of us on an internet message board sat down and physically decorated an envelope that was going into the mailbox? Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Give the Brokedown a play for a little fun:https://archive.org/details/gd87-08-16.prefm.ladner.4170.sbeok.shnf Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I guess I feel sorry for some of those people too, but it's hard to be sympathetic when they're acting like deluded and entitled babies. I hope they troll these people, open with Money, Money, and then play a bunch of Phish tunes. Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts