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I was only able to pick up the Wilco DVD (which is awesome). I went to Reckless on Milwaukee Ave and the Pavement LP was way sold out (got there at 11). Does anyone who got it have the ability to rip it and upload it to sendspace or something? I'd love to hear it.

http://forums.viachicago.org/index.php?act...;f=24&id=12

i'm sure that the blogosphere will have copies if you search for them...

I really really wanted to find those sonic youth splits but I had no luck

the SY online store was selling some copies...i got the Reatard split (the Beck was sold out).

well said. the record companies are experiencing a wake up call. most of the shit people download they would not buy in the first place. however, they might download something on a whim and actually dig it and go buy it, resulting in an otherwise unintentional purchase.

i tend to agree w/ that sentiment, but totally random polls/threads i'd seen from Oink would imply that a large percentage of younger music fans are unrepentant in their defense of not buying anything, w/ a casual 'i'll buy a t-shirt at a show' justification...

Me, discussing record store day.

D: If a new shopper were to walk into a record store for the first time on Record Store Day, what would you want them to know?

 

DC: The alphabet. No, I didn

the store i went to (peabody location of newbury comics) had a bunch of the wilco DVD. i got one rather than chance it being gone on a later visit.

hey, you must be spastic semicolon!

which prompted my DtS thread.

god-damn yes

 

seeing this played live in chicago on new year's eve 2004 was one of the greatest things i've ever experienced

it's a complete mystery to me why Pollard ignored that song....for a band who constantly toured, and played ~65 songs a night, it's a crime to have not played that one.

gbv - over the neptune/mesh gear fox

He's not singing the fucking answers.

seriously, what's the fucking difference between me expressing my opinion on this thread and others who have listed a preference for one of the three artists in question?

because the original poster wanted a recommendation from the three posted. not some naybobber of negativity pissing all over them.

got the fucking difference?

Looking to dive in and spend some time with one of these fantastic artists. I have very little knowledge of any of their works and I am looking for a new artist to sit with for awhile. If you could pick only one, which would you pick and what album would you start with?

Palace/BPB without a doubt, and this record (his 2nd, unofficially known as Days in the Wake)

valid point, but Dino is playing much smaller venues: bars and dives. the sound has much less room to travel. and, i doubt mbv is MUCH louder.

trust me, it is. Dino Jr played before MBV @ ATP last year, and MBV was by far the loudest band i've ever been close to. louder than Boris, than Dino Jr, than Mogwai...probably Swans would be the only louder band ever to play.

is it me or do most US-based festivals suck?

last year's ATP/NY was awesome, and pitchfork typically has a decent lineup. but it seems like it's a lot of the same bands playing, and it's not like they don't already tour a lot anyway...then you look @ european fests and there are some excellent ones:

http://www.tannedtin.com/

http://www.primaverasound.com/

http://www.atpfestival.com/Events/TheFansStrikeBack.php

http://www.atpfestival.com/Events/ATPBreeders.php

http://www.roadburn.com/frames.html

"He's Hot, He's Sexy, He's DEAD!!!"

 

LouieB

wasn't that a Spin cover on Jim Morrison about 25 years ago?

two awesome ones there.

From the Department of Useless Trivia, the above is actually a picture of Chi Chi Rodriguez.

thank you!

Sure, you say that just as I was about to post "Two Virgins"

 

or the infamous Dwarves cover...

unfortunately this is teh largest image i could find, but it's a spectacular cover

Ghost - Second Time Around:

another one of my favorites:

78s are dead as a doornail. There may be someone who put one out as a lark, but most turntables don't even play them. A one off hardly qualifies as a resurgence.

yeah, i wasn't being serious about that.

The price of LPs and CDs are both too high as evidenced by the Yep Roc sellathon of late. You asked what is a good price for a musical artifact? Once again it is what the market will bear. Clearly if downloads are 10 bucks then hard copies have to be more.

 

LouieB

this is underscored by the Giant Sand remastered back catalogue program i just found out about...i have pretty much all of this stuff on cd, but there are a few titles i could use on LP. due to the cost of making physical copies though, it looks like most if not all titles will be available as mp3 (and possibly FLAC), unless they can find a good just-in-time manufacturing CD option...otherwise, the cost of pressing ~1000 titles of each is prohibitive.

>Of course not......neither did Thrill Jockey, but they did continue to put out LPs when most companies stopped.

most indie labels have never stopped putting out vinyl...siltbreeze, matador, merge...

>Have you tried to buy a new 78 lately??

i bought one about ~15 years ago

>I bought the new Robyn Hitchcock for 18 bucks and got a free download. In this case not a rip-off. The market will bear what the market will bear won't it. If >an album sucks, yea, 20 bucks is too much, download or not. CDs are a rip-off at 15 too. Most of the cost of either doesn't go to the artist anyway.

i've always wondered why the pricing structure of movies and cds (constant, for the most part, and not affected by perceived quality or production costs) wasn't like books (variable MSRP).

>You can only hear so much but eyes are actually pretty sensitive. Look at silver gelatin prints from teh old days. They are beautiful and digital can never (or >can they??) reproduce that.

it's definitely getting a lot closer...there are 50mp digital backs for medium format bodies which meet or exceed the resolution of film and aren't subject to moire. and while i agree that b/w digital rendering isn't at the silver gelatin emulsion level yet, it's constantly getting closer and will be reached soon.

Yep. I do the same thing in regards to downloading from archive and dime to hear a band before buying the CD. I actually just DL'ed a radio performance from the band The Drones from dime yesterday because i've been reading a lot of good things about this band. Haven't listened to it yet though.

The Drones are an excellent rock band. i like 'em quite a bit.

I love this discussion, because while most new vinyl does include a download (thanks music companies for trying to save your ass) ultimately vinyl will also disappear too. Sure it is trendy now, but as soon as people get tired of dealing with turntables and the indie companies that spearheaded this start to go down the tubes (sorry Touch and Go) and the majors have less marketing opportunities with the slow painful demise of the indie record store, vinyl will also once again fade. Yea I am one of those guys who also buys vinyl, but very rarely new, since the most fun of getting vinyl for me are old records that don't include downloads. Also people will start to dump their vinyl collections, just as they did 20 years ago, because you can't listen to vinyl in the car, while you jog, or take the dog for a walk.

how did Touch and Go spearhead a format that was developed many decades before Corey Rusk was born?

Personally I can't wait for the vinyl frenzy to be over so that I can go back to buying nice used records for reasonable prices. At the moment the inflation in price for a stupid piece of plastic in a cardboard container is a stone drag. The reason that vinyl production can't keep up is that there isn't going to be an increase in facilities for a product that isn't going to last in the long run. Death to the vinyl industry, long live vinyl.

so LPs won't last in the long run? you can play a pre-wars 78 just fine today. how many other formats can you do that? cds are gonna be gone in ~10 years or so.

VeeDee's new double vinyl came with a copy of the CD, so some artists are thinking really proactively. Downloads don't last forever either, so if you forget to download within a year you are screwed.

Shellac (I think) started this w/ _1000 Hurts_)

Like everything, the vinyl resurgence is a trend.....not that it is going to end any time soon, because I am convinced it is the one thing that is keeping the hard copy music biz alive for the time being, but inevitably people are going to get tired of of vinyl again. I mean how many times can you play that used Billy Joel album you bought for a buck. And frankly buying a new album on vinyl for 18 or 20 bucks is also sort of a rip-off, with or without a digital download.

so if 18 or 20 is a rip-off, what in your estimation is a fair price for a physical artifact of a recording?

(How many of you still use an analog camera??, which clearly takes better pictures than digital ones doesn't it, I mean doesn't it...oh yea..not THAT much better....)

digital still needs to handle dynamic range better, but i think it's pretty clear that analog is pretty much dead from a photography perspective, unless you just wanna screw around as a hobbyist (or a niche fine arts shooter).

Morrissey in Boston

Anyone seen him live this tour? I'll be seeing him in about a week.

i saw him last night. i'll have my review and photos up hopefully tonight.

I got mine by way of spending a bunch of money at Amazon.com. I have a collection of Spin magazines, including the first two issues. I have not bought an issue of Spin for a long time.

i liked when byron coley did the Underground column for Spin...some excellent stuff there.

btw, i think that sometimes you get free mag subs when you buy tickets via ticketmaster...i think i got half a year of RS that way once...i'd never willingly spend $ on that mag.

my point is that we live in a society that seems to value ROCK STARS more than stay at home moms and dad by virtue of how much money we are willing to spend on these folks. until our values change, then it'll stay the same. i have choice to pay for tix or not, thank goodness.

you could just as easily substitute ATHLETE or MOVIE/TV STAR...i doubt our values will change, since people still want to be entertained.