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No but none of the other halloween albums featured much jamming, I think Trey is playing really well.

Currently listening and all I can say is they sound great. If your home you should be tuned in sounds great.

Yeah we are a charitable bunch, its just like I was saying this event is so much more then Jeff Tweedy singing a few songs we've all heard.

I'm not saying there is a problem with those who get the shows, no drama there that I know of, they always seem respectful. I was more talking about the shit on here and the number of people who look at this as "there chance to get up close and personal with Jeff", I mean how many of these people would be coming if there was no appearance by Jeff. ETA: I also meant that it becomes a big production for the folks at second city, where as the other 22 hours are fairly low key.

I for one will not be surprised when Jeff stops coming and just opts to make a private donation. Too much drama which ends up taking away from the purpose of the whole event. Even the whole ticketing thing last year made it more about the fact that Jeff was playing then the purpose of the event. I'm not an all nighter but I do stop in two or three times in the 24 hour period and every year its relatively the same crowd that stays for the whole event. Each year the crowd gets bigger for Jeffs segment. Which is a shame because the event as a whole is fantastic.

Sad because its probably true

Look you still said they were caught in the act, I don't think anyone at Guantanamo was caught in the act, I don't think our government even claims this. You got that right, you don't even know the half of it.

You are right it is a song, but you ignored the "played loudly or repeat" part. Hell i was working at a pizza place for the past year with a playlist that didn't change, same songs every day sometimes at the same time. This was driving me nuts, i even stopped listening to wilco for a year because i heard so many of their songs EVERYDAY. Homemade Pizza Co. is not Guantanamo, under those conditions I can't even imagine what would happen.

What do you think the effect on ones mental health would be if they were forced to listen to "Crazy" by Britney Spears over and over at loud volumes or the sesame street theme song? I believe the article states that the use of music in this manner is considered torture by the UN Convention against torture.

Nothing important just some torture, the overthrow of some sovereign nations, the killing of innocent, the destruction of civil rights and some artists were upset about how their music was being used. But don't mind me by all means carry on with whatever you are doing to avoid work.

EXACTLY. I find it amazing people can joke about this when its being done in their name so that they can go to the mall.

Well, my problem is like you said the latter. I realize though that are government is not to interested in stopping their policy of torturing suspects. So if their is a way through our current laws to throw roadblocks up we as citizens should be doing it. Again like I said I'm not a copyright attorney so I don't even know if a license for "play" can even be denied. Even if it could the government would simply go out a record their own tracks to torture people, I'm sure Ted Nugent is just waiting for the call. My real point is this is a disgusting abuse of not only human rights (on p

Would there be the same outrage if Garth Brooks' music was blasted loudly? No, I imagine most Garth Brooks fans support the war on terror. Would Oprah have been equally offended if they had forced the prisoners to listen her show over and over? No, Oprah supports the war on terror. If a Top-40 station was played, would every artist of every song played on the station have a right to be outraged? Yes. If Jay Z found out that ESPN broadcaster/wife-cheater Steve Phillips was making love with his mistress to his music, should Jay Z state his disgust with that? Only if the music was downloade

Aren't stip clubs supposed to be paying licensing fees. I only took one entertainment law class in college and my understanding was that any business using music needed to be paying a licensing fee.I realize many business don't pay or register but I thought that was the "law". Like I said I could be wrong.

its is only a request, I was just curious if their were any legal implications. This isn't simply buying a record and playing it for a friend, its using it to "help" your business.

Many people on here know I have serious beef with the lips. Outside of that musically this is a fantastic record, way better then "At War With The Mystics".

I'm sure we have some lawyers on here so maybe someone can answer. Is this a breech of fair use? Granted no money is being made but is this any different then a restaurant subjecting patrons to smooth jazz (which they need a license to play).

For one do not not speak your mind because you don't believe your view is popular. Anyone who attacks for thinking differently rather then talking is a fool. I for one wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion and that is fine. For example you mention grieving families but fail to make a connection with those being tortured and those grieving. But this isn't the important thing. I was not trying to have a conversation about US policy, if I was I would have placed this in another forum. The question I have is over how art is used by others who did not create it. Regardless of what y

From the New York Times: Curious what people thought about this. Its disturbing to think how many people were enjoying this music while it was being used for such awful purposes. I can't even began to imagine how I would feel if I created something to express myself and then found it being used in such an awful way.

So did anyone score tickets?

This is it. Why else would they have stopped at 99, too bad the 100th album is: notice how it looks like the gallery of albums.

HOW WAS TORTOISE? I'm surprised no one has said anything. Also would be surprised if glenn or nels dont sit in. When I saw Jeff Parker at the green mill a few months back my friend tapped my girlfriend on the shoulder and whispered something in her ear, this was followed by her repeating the statement in my ear, I then turn around and notice Nels Cline is sitting next to me.

Thats funny because my girlfriend saw glenn solo a year or two ago and glenn wouldn't stop staring at her, she said it made her a bit uncomfortable.

You may not be able to define "emotional intensity" but I think there is something to bad said about playing shot in the arm 300 times in five years and it then loosing something. Right after Ghost is born wilco featured a fairly fresh lineup, which is what I think brought more energy to those show (04-05), which in my mind were the best sets I've seen wilco play. From a personal perspective I just don't see how you can "bring it" every night if your playing the same songs the same way. I know Nels has the talent, so would it be too hard for the band to stretch impossible Germany out?

Damn didn't realize cinci was as close as Detroit, still can't make though do to work. I may be having my schedule changed at work.....if i do Detroit could happen right now i'm planning on philly night two.