froggie Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 all zipped into one MP3.... only 30sec samples available. looks like some nice stuff here......... and a bit of Love and theft revisited http://www.sendspace.com/file/rllhcx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boots Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 (edited) Thanks! Dl'ing right now....looking forward to a sample Edited July 19, 2006 by Boots Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheMaker Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Thanks! Interesting stuff. VERY much a logical follow-up to L&T in terms of general sound (Gershwin-meets-Robert Johnson-meets-Muddy Waters), but perhaps a bit too much so? The second-to-last clip sounds almost identical to Summer Days - a great song, but I don't know that we need a rerun so soon after that song's release. The lyrics are promising, though, one or two sappy love songs aside. Some amazing lines on here, especially "Some young lazy slut has charmed away my brainzzzzz!" Fuck! Outstanding! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted July 20, 2006 Author Share Posted July 20, 2006 The lyrics are promising, though, one or two sappy love songs aside. Some amazing lines on here, especially "Some young lazy slut has charmed away my brainzzzzz!" Fuck! Outstanding! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BolivarBaLues Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I agree that it does sound somewhat like "Love and Theft Pt. II," but that's not a bad thing. I don't think at this point that anyone's expecting Dylan to do anything groundbreaking, but his recent run of albums (dating back to Time Out Of Mind) may be his most consistent stretch since the 60s. And that's quite a feat. This promises to be a very good record. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 man his vocals sound pretty damn strong on these... can't wait!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Strange to hear these clips in this way. But, thanks froggie!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted July 20, 2006 Author Share Posted July 20, 2006 thats how i got the mp3... they're in the album order though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
essox500 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Wow he's really changed his style up on this one, like Neil going from the Shocking Pinks to Freedom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
muller Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Thanks for posting that Froggie. Nice little teaser of whats to come and I love what I hear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Is Chicago Is Not Chicago Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 i know they are only 30 second clips...but i still refuse to hold to listen to them. I'm very stubborn and really enjoy the chance to listen to the whole thing brand new. But i still like to pick your guys brains. Can you tell me a bit more? Musically is the faster stuff rockin or honky tonkin? Slower stuff breezy ballady like on LT or straight heart wrenching slower torch ballads like TOOM? Reviews said dylan spent an uncharacteristic amount of time on the vocals does it really show? (also claimed his prhasing was Sinatraesque...any truth to that?) They also said...the lyrics were supposed to me more in the tradition of planet waves with sublime love songs rather than dylans heart getting ripped out... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
owl Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Why not just listen to them once and then delete to get a feel for it. That's what I did and I don't think it will compromise the "don't listen to leaks" policy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nettles Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 What a teaser, can't wait for this release! It's been along time since I've cared so much Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I am gonna pass on this too...30 seconds is pretty short. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheMaker Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 (edited) Musically is the faster stuff rockin or honky tonkin? I'd say neither, personally. Very Muddy Waters/bluesy, I think. The first track has a strong Under the Red Sky-meets-L&T feel; Rollin' and Tumblin' is musically true to its name, but McKinley Morganfield never sang about young sluts charming his brains away; Levee's Gonna Break sounds so much like Summer Days that you can literally sing the lyrics to the latter along with the former with ease. Slower stuff breezy ballady like on LT or straight heart wrenching slower torch ballads like TOOM? I'm cautiously optimistic that the ballads won't be as trite as the clips let on. They're awfully syrupy, and the lyrics aren't impressive at all. If we can judge the record fairly based on 30-second samples (and I'm not saying we can), then When the Deal Goes Down and Spirit on the Water are easily the worst songs Dylan has written in 15-20 years, no contest. If you can imagine L&T's ballads with the Gershwin/Porter factor set to overdrive, that's probably the best way to describe these two. The midtempo stuff sounds the most promising. I'm chomping at the bit to hear Workingman's Blues #2, which seems to marry the dusty banjo folk of High Water with the majesterial sweep of Not Dark Yet. The vocal melody also sounds really excellent. "Well, I'm listenin' to the steel rails hum / Got both eyes tight shut / Just sittin' here trying to keep the hunger from creepin' its way into my gut." Even the brief 30 seconds we get here are remarkably vivid. Nettie Moore sounds very spare musically. Just acoustic guitar and thudding drums, and it sounds like it might be a solid story song. The sound reminds me a bit of a much more laconic Cross the Green Mountain. The last song, Ain't Talkin', could be a TOOM outtake. It's like a more animated, more sinister Highlands. "Ain't talkin' / Just walkin' / Through this weary world of woe. Hot burnin' / Still yearnin' / No one on Earth would ever know." Reviews said dylan spent an uncharacteristic amount of time on the vocals does it really show? (also claimed his prhasing was Sinatraesque...any truth to that?) Unequivocally, no. The voice here is nearly identical to L&T, which is hardly a bad thing. The phrasing, however, hems closer to TOOM, which is also far from a bad thing! Bob's really singing the ballads, of which there seem to be quite many. If you can imagine a cross between Bye and Bye and Moonlight with the cover of Return to Me from the Sopranos soundtrack, you'll have an idea of where he's ended up here. All told, judging from the clips, I think we're looking at a really uneven record, unfortunately. The lows are STRONGLY reminiscent of of Under the Red Sky, but the highs are sounding like they may stack up against the very best of TOOM and L&T. Here's hoping! Edited July 20, 2006 by TheMaker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Is Chicago Is Not Chicago Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 very interesting....maybe some of these reviewers were right when they said there were at least 3 masterpieces on the album. (the rest quite trite!?) although I refuse to believe that this album will be anything but top notch genius from our curly haired cowboy bard. I wonder what preview listening/pre release reviews of Love and Theft said... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
essox500 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Bob Dylan the Folk/Pop artist > Bob Dylan the Muddy Waters wannabe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Bob Dylan the Folk/Pop artist > Bob Dylan the Muddy Waters wannabeWell that's that.... LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boots Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Bob Dylan the Folk/Pop artist > Bob Dylan the Muddy Waters wannabe > Pink Floyd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
essox500 Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Strange comparing a folk singer with a space rock/prog band. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thisyearsgirl Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 thanks for putting these up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Is Chicago Is Not Chicago Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 thanks for putting these up! what kills me is how long he's taking between albums these days. and how frequently he was putting out lack luster albums in the 80's. I mean the man himself said he was in huge dry spell and he couldn't get out of it...than why was he mass producing albums? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
P Dub Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 what kills me is how long he's taking between albums these days. and how frequently he was putting out lack luster albums in the 80's. I mean the man himself said he was in huge dry spell and he couldn't get out of it...than why was he mass producing albums? The dry spell didn't last very long. If you look at all of his albums from the '80s, each one had at least several true masterpieces. I think the '80s brought changes that the '60s artists had trouble adapting to...look at Neil, The Dead, etc. It also became quite an ordeal for Bob to select a band for recording and touring. He learned so much from Jerry and The Dead during that short period together. The formula had always been to release an album and tour behind it. But that became a real burden. The rehearsals for the Dylan/Dead tour went on and on, and Bob rediscovered hundreds of songs from his catalog that he hadn't played in decades. It was that spark that relit Bob's fire, and look at what he's given us since then. The Never Ending Tour, The Bootleg Series, Oh Mercy, Under the Red Sky, the two traditional albums, Time Out Of Mind, Love & Theft, Chronicles, No Direction Home, Theme Time Radio Hour, etc. I would rather Bob take his time with his new material and nail his new songs, which is what he has done beginning with Oh Mercy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjpuczko Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 ah, why did you include under the red sky? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nicburto Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 i dont know what someone was saying about an uneven album - sounds good to me - i cant wait! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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