parisisstale Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 I can't imagine why they would trade A-Rod. I can't picture a deal that would be worth it for them. Congrats in advance to whatever team pulls it off though. For the sake of everyone, he just has to get out of New York. It's gonna happen. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 I can't imagine why they would trade A-Rod. I can't picture a deal that would be worth it for them. Congrats in advance to whatever team pulls it off though.Unless A-Rod leads them to a championship next year, New York will no longer be a tenable place for him to play. It may well even be too late for him now. You have to remember, any year the Yankees do not win the World Series is considered a failure. Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 The hiring could also fuel speculation that the Cubs may try to acquire Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez. Piniella was previously A-Rod's manager in Seattle. please god no! Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted October 16, 2006 Author Share Posted October 16, 2006 I understand that. I just still don't understand why A-Rod gets so much of the blame. He's just one guy on the roster. No one there has one since 2000. There are several other guys who have never won there (Giambi, Matsui, et al). People whine about how much A-Rod makes, but a good chunk of that is paid by the Rangers, and, well, I'm not sure why the fans care what Steinbrenner is paying him anyway. Regardless, if the Yankees do let him go, it will be a mistake that I will be happy to see them make. Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 A-Rod isn't going anywhere, and especially not to Chicago, north or south side. Both teams could use a shortstop, but I don't see either team getting entangled in A-Rod's contract. Frankly, I don't see any team doing that. Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 I understand that. I just still don't understand why A-Rod gets so much of the blame. He's just one guy on the roster. No one there has one since 2000. There are several other guys who have never won there (Giambi, Matsui, et al). People whine about how much A-Rod makes, but a good chunk of that is paid by the Rangers, and, well, I'm not sure why the fans care what Steinbrenner is paying him anyway. Regardless, if the Yankees do let him go, it will be a mistake that I will be happy to see them make. now, I'm going to talk out of my ass now, but I have never seen A-rod behave like a team player. never. it's always about him as an individual. I don't like him, I don't want him on my team, we are getting rid of Dusty Baker, please no A-rod. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 I understand that. I just still don't understand why A-Rod gets so much of the blame. He's just one guy on the roster. No one there has one since 2000. There are several other guys who have never won there (Giambi, Matsui, et al). People whine about how much A-Rod makes, but a good chunk of that is paid by the Rangers, and, well, I'm not sure why the fans care what Steinbrenner is paying him anyway. Regardless, if the Yankees do let him go, it will be a mistake that I will be happy to see them make.He gets blamed because of the disconnect between his alleged status as "greatest player in the game" and his performance in the postseason, which has been awful. His strifes with Jeter, who is the most revered person on that team, haven't helped either. There's the perception that he doesn't earn his leviathan salary and as your average New York-area resident really has to bust his or her ass to survive, that breeds resentment as well.But Giambi managed to rehabilitate himself to a great extent; mabye Alex can too. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted October 16, 2006 Author Share Posted October 16, 2006 now, I'm going to talk out of my ass now, but I have never seen A-rod behave like a team player. never. it's always about him as an individual. I don't like him, I don't want him on my team, we are getting rid of Dusty Baker, please no A-rod. What does it mean to be a team player in baseball? Unlike basketball or hockey, they don't pass the ball around or anything. A team player and an asshole do the exact same things on the baseball field as one another. When at the plate, try to get on base. When in the field, try to make the play. How does one be a team player? Yeah, some guys might be a pain in the ass in the clubhouse, but none of us really have any idea what goes on in there, and there are plenty of guys who have reputations as clubhouse cancers who have won big time. There are also plenty of guys who have reputations as great guys who never win. He gets blamed because of the disconnect between his alleged status as "greatest player in the game" and his performance in the postseason, which has been awful. His strifes with Jeter, who is the most revered person on that team, haven't helped either. There's the perception that he doesn't earn his leviathan salary and as your average New York-area resident really has to bust his or her ass to survive, that breeds resentment as well.But Giambi managed to rehabilitate himself to a great extent; mabye Alex can too. Who annointed him as "greatest player in the game"? It wasn't him. I've never heard him say anything remotely suggesting that. His performance in the '05 and '06 were bad, yes (total number of games: 9). Career numbers are quite good. Look, I don't like the guy, I just think that the degree to which he is demonized by the press and by Yankees fans is nothing short of crazy. He's one of the best players in the game today, and the Yanks wouldn't be nearly as good without him. If they want to dump him, that's their prerogative, but it would be a stupid, stupid move. Link to post Share on other sites
paul137 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Being a fan my whole life, it's really going to piss me off when I can't get tickets to see them play next season.yeah next year will suck. but it still is exciting. plus knowing illitch tickets will go way up. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 What does it mean to be a team player in baseball? Unlike basketball or hockey, they don't pass the ball around or anything. A team player and an asshole do the exact same things on the baseball field as one another. When at the plate, try to get on base. When in the field, try to make the play. How does one be a team player? Yeah, some guys might be a pain in the ass in the clubhouse, but none of us really have any idea what goes on in there, and there are plenty of guys who have reputations as clubhouse cancers who have won big time. There are also plenty of guys who have reputations as great guys who never win.Who annointed him as "greatest player in the game"? It wasn't him. I've never heard him say anything remotely suggesting that. His performance in the '05 and '06 were bad, yes (total number of games: 9). Career numbers are quite good. Look, I don't like the guy, I just think that the degree to which he is demonized by the press and by Yankees fans is nothing short of crazy. He's one of the best players in the game today, and the Yanks wouldn't be nearly as good without him. If they want to dump him, that's their prerogative, but it would be a stupid, stupid move.I'd trade Alex for a good starting pitcher at this point. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted October 16, 2006 Author Share Posted October 16, 2006 Man, I remember in high school a friend and I used to ditch class to go see afternoon games at the old ballpark. We'd buy the tickets that were $8 including pizza and pop, and then we'd just sit wherever. An inning in our real seats, a couple innings behind the dugout, maybe hang out with the guy with the radar gun for a little bit. That was great. I wonder if kids won't be able to do that now... I'd trade Alex for a good starting pitcher at this point. Depending on the salary deal the Yanks are willing to make, there are probably about 29 teams who would be willing to do this. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Then they should, 'cause their rotation is shot to hell. No one you can really count on besides Wang. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted October 16, 2006 Author Share Posted October 16, 2006 Yep. And that's why they lost. Pitching was awful this year. Although as stacked as that line up is, I'm fairly certain that they can get a top-of-the-rotation guy without giving up the best player on their team. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 I'd trade Alex for a good starting pitcher at this point. Dontrelle for Arod+ 10 million. Let's get this done. Link to post Share on other sites
parisisstale Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 The reasons for him to go may not be rational enough for you, but it's just the way it is. Some things just can't be explained (like the Tigers having the worst 2nd half of any World Series team in history). The players hate him, the fans hate him, and he hates it here. Everyone knows it's not all his fault. We all also know that wherever he goes, he'll be dominant and probably destroy the Yankees whenever he plays them. So be it. Just give us some pitching. Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Game Five = Ppd. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted October 16, 2006 Author Share Posted October 16, 2006 Game Five = Ppd. Certainly a bummer, but it might make for a better game since the pitchers will now get to go on regular rest. Link to post Share on other sites
austrya Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Does anyone remember the super fan over at Tiger Stadium? He used to sit behind home plate and he would always try to get the crowd riled up? Did he ever make it over to Comerica Park? I was thinking about that the other day. Heck, I don't even know if he's still alive. When I was a kid, we used to take a field trip if we were on the honor roll all 4 semesters. I lived too far away to go on my own. I went with Jay a couple of times in high school. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted October 16, 2006 Author Share Posted October 16, 2006 I remember that guy, austrya! Not sure if I've ever seen him at Comerica either though, now that you mention it. I'd forgotten about him until you mentioned him, to be honest with you. How far from Detroit did you grow up? Any Detroiters or former Detroiters know if The Brow is still alive? Link to post Share on other sites
austrya Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Jay and I live about an hour west on Michigan Ave. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted October 16, 2006 Author Share Posted October 16, 2006 Irish Hills? Cool. Link to post Share on other sites
paul137 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 my first baseball memory is going to tiger stadium on fathers day with my dad, brother, cousin, uncle, grandfather, and great grandfather getting a burger at nemos and then heading over to the game. it was hat day and i still have the free hat with the wjr logo on the side. probably about 1987 i was 5. parked by nemos last friday and walked around the old girl (tiger stadium) and someone had spray painted comerica park sucks on a section of the wall. also got a parking ticket. buit it was worth the nostalgia. Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Certainly a bummer, but it might make for a better game since the pitchers will now get to go on regular rest.Yeah, but I'm not going to be around tomorrow night. And really, I think less rest for Glavine favored the Cardinals more than less rest for Weaver favored the Mets. We'll have to see what happens. Or, in my case, read what happened after it's over. Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Link Under investigation Dominican police issue warrant for Uribe in shooting Posted: Monday October 16, 2006 7:45PM; Updated: Monday October 16, 2006 7:56PM SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic (AP) -- Dominican authorities were seeking Juan Uribe after issuing an arrest warrant Monday for the Chicago White Sox shortstop in connection with the shooting of two men. Uribe and a bodyguard are suspected of shooting and wounding a Dominican farmer and a captain in the Italian Navy with a pistol and a shotgun when the pair walked too close to Uribe's jeep around midnight Friday, authorities said. The navy captain, Dondolin Alessandro, was treated for wounds to his stomach and hands. The farmer, Antonio Gonzalez Perez, had an elbow injury. The Dominican athlete's brother Elpidio and an unnamed bodyguard of Uribe's were arrested Sunday, San Cristobal province District Attorney Robert Lugo said. Uribe's agent, Martin Arburua, told the Chicago Sun-Times on Sunday that he had spoken to his client, who denied involvement in the shooting. Uribe told Arburua he had spoken to police, but Lugo said the shortstop had not contacted authorities, who were trying to locate him. "There is an order for Uribe's arrest and the prosecutor's office is investigating the case," Lugo told The Associated Press. The shooting took place in Juan Baron, a coastal city about 65 kilometers (40 miles) southwest of Santo Domingo, according to a police report. Two weeks ago, White Sox general manager Ken Williams endorsed the 27-year-old Uribe as his shortstop for the 2007 season despite his disappointing 2006 season. He was expected to report Tuesday to his Dominican winter league team in the capital, the Escogido Lions. Uribe is scheduled to earn $4.15 million next season in the major leagues, with the White Sox holding a $5 million option or $300,000 buyout for 2008. Copyright 2006 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Link to post Share on other sites
Oil Can Boyd Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 ARod gets blamed because of plays like this: Link to post Share on other sites
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