Big Perm Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 exactly, but for many they can't see it that way and just simply dismiss it as a bad movie or misfire. Which is sad really. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Rubrics have no place in art. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 any word on if/when there'll be a wide release? i will drive to boston if necessary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Rubrics have no place in art. One thing I've always liked about Wes Anderson movies is that they do away with established ideas about what a movie should be--they exist on their own terms.But those terms, frankly, can be unacceptable to those of us who get annoyed by preciousness and pretense, as mediated through the Weltanschauung of the rich and overeducated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 But those terms, frankly, can be unacceptable to those of us who get annoyed by preciousness and pretense, as mediated through the Weltanschauung of the rich and overeducated.Fair enough, but I wasn't really trying to specifically defend Anderson so much as make a broad statement about how watching movies through a filter of standardized expectations is reductive, limiting, and unfair--both to the artist and to the viewer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I know, and I liked Rushmore and Life Aquatic, but Anderson really, really pushes his approach to its absolute limit sometimes. I mean, what would Steve McQueen say? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Rushmore is one of my all-time favorite movies, but I agree with you... in particular, I felt Life Aquatic went over the edge. But even when I sense it's not working, I always admire a filmmaker who swings for the fences. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I agree with that. I guess I am feeling particularly proletarian today. All that driving around in the Rolls, I reckon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I have not seen this movie and, although I've liked every Anderson movie I've seen, I appreciated this: http://www.slate.com/id/2174828 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Frankly, I am still a little surprised that Weltanschauung has two u's in it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
noyes Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 i was disappointed, slightly.it's definitely a different directorial style for Wes.the film's intro was truly great and got me excitedbut i expected myself to laugh more and thoroughly enjoy it, which I did, but in a 'kinda' way.after watching it on the 1st, i miss that distinctive Wes style of filmmakingand contrarily think that evolution of technique is not good in Wes's case.i love his films and Darjeeling was definitely a departure.crazy how The Life Aquatic and the familiarity it embodiedwithin Wes's individual trademark of a style seems brighter than this film.that familiarity is, i guess, what i was hoping for. maybe i need to watch it again.it was definitely a new, more subdued feeling for him,although the movie still maintains Yeoman's patented amera pans, zooms, etc.meeting Roman Coppola behind me on line made my day though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big Perm Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I still think Life Aquatic has some of his most touching moments in it and I will wrastle anyone who disagrees! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
napoleon Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I still think Life Aquatic has some of his most touching moments in it and I will wrastle anyone who disagrees! i still don't understand why people dislike that film so much. i think it's absolutely beautiful from beginning to end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
So Long Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 people dislike that film? I love everything Wes Anderson touches, including Squid and the Whale (which he produced I believe) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mystik Spiral Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Tried to make an advance screening tonight, but we weren't lining up 3 1/2 hours prior to showtime like everyone else... so we ended up drinking at a neighborhood bar. I do want to see it, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thecanuck Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I'm definitely looking forward to checking this one out. I've got my fingers crossed that I won't have to travel great distances to chance a screening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Life Aquatic is actually my favorite film of his. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Frankly, I am still a little surprised that Weltanschauung has two u's in it. But are you surprised that skiing has two 'i's? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boywiththorninside Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 A.V. Club - Wes Anderson Interview There's been a lot of Wes Anderson content over there this week. The interview, list of films that influenced Anderson, list of films that Anderson influenced. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reni Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 http://www.slate.com/id/2174828/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 It's almost as if we live in the same place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boywiththorninside Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 http://www.slate.com/id/2174828/ I've read this article before, but it was about Woody Allen, Martin Scorsese, Paul Schrader, Sidney Lumet, Copolla (Sofia). Wes, join the club. You're a white director who doesn't know how to properly deal with race/cultures foreign to your own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Wes, join the club. You're a white director who doesn't know how to properly deal with race/cultures foreign to your own. Does any director of any race or culture know how to properly deal with other races or cultures? Should they? How could they? Examples? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Sofia Copolla is mentioned in the piece. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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