solace Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Simon stole a lot of Graceland from Los Lobos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 And fuck The Strokes too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 And fuck The Strokes too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Simon stole a lot of Graceland from Los Lobos. From what I just briefly read on Wikipedia, it sounds like it was 2 songs? Whatever. I really think this is some shallow shit here. I can't imagine hating a band because of where they come from. That's really, really dumb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I mean, I watched Michael Gira transubstantiate himself into the fallen Lucifer at a Swans show at Irving Plaza in 1988. I saw a Bad Brains show so insane that the whole room turned into a mosh pit. I saw Camper Van Beethoven shatter Einsteinian reality with their cover version of "Interstellar Overdrive." I KNOW shit from Shinola. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I mean, I watched Michael Gira transubstantiate himself into the fallen Lucifer at a Swans show at Irving Plaza in 1988. "Gira lived with his parents in a relatively affluent suburb of Los Angeles, California" Fuck him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 From what I just briefly read on Wikipedia, it sounds like it was 2 songs? Whatever. I really think this is some shallow shit here. I can't imagine hating a band because of where they come from. That's really, really dumb.So sue me. They marketed me wrong, is all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 "Gira lived with his parents in a relatively affluent suburb of Los Angeles, California" Fuck him.Wonder what THAT household was like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 From what I just briefly read on Wikipedia, it sounds like it was 2 songs? 2 full songs, yeah, but tons of other riffs and other parts from the rest of the record too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Jesus wept. I don't like Vampire Weekend because they ape a great genre of music, badly, to the point of insult and exploitation. That they are rich just makes me more mad at them. If someone comes up with some stats (: ) that this band's success results in people getting into Afropop and more money going to deserving Afropop artists, then maybe I will STFU about them. Until then, motherfuck them AND John Wayne. But don't Afropop band's try and sound like western bands?, which is where the Pop bit of their name comes from. I wonder if they get hung up on not being from that culture when they steal from it? Personally I think we should all be talking Animal Collective's album and the 'afropop' influences on that - cos I'd argue white kids from america can have african influences and be good at it - not this mediocre band. But, I think the fact that they are white and rich doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to play any style of music they wish to. Mick Jagger and Keith Richards are both white middle class grammar school boys, but that didn't mean they couldn't play the blues or country. Although, like I said - there is a difference being allowed to play what you want and being good at it, which is where Vampire Weekend fail in this debate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 'fail' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 What's the big deal? If someone doesn't like them, fine. If someone does, fine. They don't have to be revolutionizing music to be enjoyable to some folks. Maybe if they were drenched in reverb they would be considered hipper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I don't know enough about Afropop to say whether Vampire Weekend is a success or failure at appropriating bits of it. But I do know that I find the record tuneful and much more enjoyable than just about any other well-known pop record of last year, so the band is at least successful at something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 'fail' ok, i'll mark them up to a D- happy now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 What's the big deal? If someone doesn't like them, fine. If someone does, fine. They don't have to be revolutionizing music to be enjoyable to some folks. Maybe if they were drenched in reverb they would be considered hipper. you can't become hipper, you either are or you aren't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 you can't become hipper, you either are or you aren't. Tell that to Animal Collective, Panda Bear, Bon Iver, et al. Massive amounts of reverb seem to be part of the formula for hipness in the age of Pitchfork. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Tell that to Animal Collective, Panda Bear, Bon Iver, et al. Massive amounts of reverb seem to be part of the formula for hipness in the age of Pitchfork. yeah. they are hip. that doesn't mean that vampire weekend, for example, could just copy that production - cos all that will do is make reverb less hip, not them more so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 yeah. they are hip. that doesn't mean that vampire weekend, for example, could just copy that production - cos all that will do is make reverb less hip, not them more so.So am I unhip because I think the reverb makes AC, PB and BI sound like shit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I don't get the love for Animal Collective. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I don't get the love for Animal Collective.This shocks me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 So am I unhip because I think the reverb makes AC, PB and BI sound like shit? yes I don't get the love for Animal Collective. i'm not trying to say that vampire weekend are shit here, i was trying to defend what they did - i just can't defend them being great cos i don't think they are. whereas i do think so with animal collective. i'd just find it more interesting and able to contribute more if we were talking about them instead with regard to white guys taking african influences. have you heard the new album?, cos it's a lot more poppy than any of their other stuff. i'd have thought you'd like it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Bon Iver actually doesn't use that much reverb honestly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 have you heard the new album?, cos it's a lot more poppy than any of their other stuff. i'd have thought you'd like it.The new AC album? yes, and while my post was meant merely to poke fun at "your favorite band sucks"-type discussions, I truly do find the overbearing use of reverb to be huge turnoff. There is some good stuff buried under that reverb, I just have a hard time listening to it because of that reverb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I have not heard the new one. Maybe I should. But either way, this is all subjective. Whatever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Bon Iver actually doesn't use that much reverb honestlyYeah, I misspoke. I didn't mean Bon Iver, I meant Fleet Foxes. Brain fart, sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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