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Christ. Do these people want to be the next Zappa family? 'Cause it ain't happenin'. Are they incapable of just naming a kid something resembling a real name?

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Really quite amazing, the counting process, the challenges to certain ballots, etc. What's with that extra 650?

 

I was following this story - but I think I lost track of it. It must have something to do with the uncounted absentee ballots - or am I reading that wrong.

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I was following this story - but I think I lost track of it. It must have something to do with the uncounted absentee ballots - or am I reading that wrong.

The reason they are uncounted is because they were incorrectly rejected previously. Probably different definition of what should be counted but I thought the courts already ruled on that particular point

 

Blogajevich to appoint Rolan Burris to Senate. This should be fun.

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The reason they are uncounted is because they were incorrectly rejected previously. Probably different definition of what should be counted but I thought the courts already ruled on that particular point

Yeah, that's what gets me, that courts are ruling on all these different subcategories of ballots that were or were not counted for different reasons, and then those rulings are appealed... You'd think in the past 8 years, every jurisdiction in the country would have tightened up the procedures on this kind of thing. :twitchsmile

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Al Franken's SNL stuff from the 1970s is golden and of itself should earn him a seat at the Congressional table

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I would think he would be more known for his Air America effort these days.

That's too bad, because that shit was funny.

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He's also a deadhead.

Have you seen those skits him and Tom Davis did backstage at the Radio City '80 run? Priceless. The Dead's performances on SNL were the direct result of Tom & Al lobbying Lorne Micheals for them.

 

Anyway, it might only be about 30 years too late, but we have now entered THE AL FRANKEN DECADE. ;)

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I'm sure the people of Minnesota are proud to have Stuart Smalley representing them. :stunned

 

 

What a great Legacy the State of Minnesota has:

 

Harold Stassen

HUbert Humphrey

Walter Mondale

Jessee Ventura

Al Franken

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/23/us/polit...ml?ref=politics

 

 

Remember when I asked why Democratic donors were being asked to pay off the Clinton campaigns debt, when she could just forgive the loan she had given (that is to say, why should anyone care if she loses those millions--she's still going to be rich and I'm not going to dig in my pocket to replenish the Clintons' personal wealth)? I was told that she couldn't write off the debt because of tax and/or FEC reasons. Well, here she is writing off the debt. The campaign does still owe some more, but most of it was owed to herself.

This struck me as odd (e-mail received today, from Jill Biden, through the barackobama.com e-mail list):

 

We're just 11 days away from the start of an important journey that will move our country in a new direction.

 

But as we all prepare for that journey, we can't forget our commitment to help Hillary Clinton retire her campaign debt.

 

I got to know Hillary on the campaign trail, and I saw firsthand what a vital role she played in Barack's election. And as our soon-to-be Secretary of State, Senator Clinton is working hard now to help Barack implement policies that will help us meet the global challenges we face.

 

Will you help us honor our promise and support our friend Hillary Clinton by making a donation of $100 or more today?

 

During the general election, Hillary was a tireless advocate for Barack, traveling across the country and uniting people in our movement for change.

 

As a wife and a mother, I know the kind of sacrifice she made as a candidate, an advocate for Barack and Joe, and now as a member of the cabinet. She made those sacrifices because she believed in the change that we all worked so hard for.

 

Now, we need to help Hillary focus on the challenges that she will face as Secretary of State. You can show your support and make sure the hard-working individuals and small businesses who were a part of Hillary's campaign effort are paid for their hard work.

 

Make a donation of $100 or more now to help one of our vital partners for change:

 

http://donate.barackobama.com/hillary

 

Thank you for everything,

 

Jill

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This struck me as odd (e-mail received today, from Jill Biden, through the barackobama.com e-mail list):

I guess most of the remaining money is owed to Mark Penn's firm.

 

Here's something I noticed in the stories about this:

April or May or whatever, media reports that Clinton lends a total of $20 million to campaign

 

December: Media reports that Clinton has been forced to retire the remaining debt her campaign owes to her--$13 million, but that the campaign still owes $7 million to Mark Penn's firm.

 

My interpretation is that either the initial media reports were wrong (maybe Clinton only lent $13 million to begin with and Penn's firm lent $7 million in services) OR perhaps Clinton recouped $7 of the $20 million she owed and wrote off $13 million. In that case, perhaps she should have waited till all vendors (read: Penn) were paid off before recouping any money.

 

I just find it borderline disgusting that the rank and file Democrats would be asked to donate to what amounts to a replenishment of the wealth of two members of the ruling class. I mean, it's not as if she lent the money to government or a non-profit charity--she was lending it to her own campaign! If she doesn't get it back, her loss. Why should anyone else care?

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