MattZ Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Racist? Not racist? Stupid? All of the above? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Just stupid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
isadorah Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Racist? Not racist? Stupid? All of the above? stupid. i think what they're trying to say is that politicians are a bunch of monkeys (although a chimp is actually an ape but who uses the word ape in a reference like that; and if the planet earth series doesn't know the difference between a monkey and an ape why should a cartoonist). but at the same time whoever made the cartoon is either a deep racist and the editors aren't doing their jobs and didn't catch it or is completely oblivious to the history of this country and didn't make the correlation at all to the racist undertones the cartoon carries. either way it is more tasteless than the controversial cover that was somewhat satirical. the editors aren't doing their job and this is just plain bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PigSooie Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Is that Travis? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 yeah, I think it's a play on the tragedy of Travis. That being said, I'm going with stupid. Monkeys have tails, damnit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I have to say that it is a tad racist in my opinion. the NY Post isn't known for being a very sensitive paper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PigSooie Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Are you racist if you think it's racist? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Normally I'd say just stupid, but this particular cartoonist has a history of being a racist, sexist, homophobic asshole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I'd say it's not thinking it through far enough for the cartoonist to not realize it could be considered racist and stupidity on the part of the paper for running it. ed. Then again, I don't know the artist and his history (^). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 So it's racist because congress is overwhelmingly black and therefore the "monkey" is in reference to them? I don't get it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 So it's racist because congress is overwhelmingly black and therefore the "monkey" is in reference to them?Obama played a major role in the writing of the bill, and people see the monkey as a racist reference to him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I didn't know the president wrote legislation. Times they are a changin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 So the monkey symbolizes Congress? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I think the cartoon was intended to be a play on two things, the Travis episode and the old saying that if you give a bunch of monkey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Obama played a major role in the writing of the bill, and people see the monkey as a racist reference to him.I think that's an ape. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
isadorah Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I think that's an ape. that is definitely an ape. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I just can't believe they printed a cartoon depicting a shot-dead ape - blood, bulletholes and everything. That's fucked up. And the punchline is about as clever as a Larry the Cable Guy quip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted February 19, 2009 Author Share Posted February 19, 2009 The president may not write legislation, but this bill is (rightly) associated with Obama.I can understand why people would think it's offensive, and while I can't say that the cartoonist/paper is racist, I can say with a reasonable degree of certainty that they are stupid. Putting a sign around the chimp's neck that says "Congress" would have been an easy fix that should have been obvious to most people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I think the cartoon was intended to be a play on two things, the Travis episode and the old saying that if you give a bunch of monkey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Are you racist if you think it's racist? yep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZenLunatic Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I don't think its racist. I think its controversial and that sells. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jakobnicholas Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Thanks to Google, I found some articles regarding this cartoon. Some guy's website I found named Right-Wing Bob has these thoughts, which make good sense to me: Well, I Quote Link to post Share on other sites
isadorah Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 The joke is just this: that the federal stimulus bill was (or could have been) written by monkeys. (Yes, I know a chimpanzee is not a monkey but that has little weight in this context.) am glad he pointed this out. phew! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Wherein wikipedia provides information related to the probability of an army of monkeys crafting a stimulus bill, or in this example, Hamlet. Ignoring punctuation, spacing, and capitalization, a monkey typing letters uniformly at random has a chance of one in 26 of correctly typing the first letter of Hamlet. It has a chance of one in 676 (26 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 There is a certain degree of idiocy that pops up with the automatic "That's racist" response. Befuddling it is. If the Dallas/Ft Worth area there is a town called Frisco. A growing suburban community with historically deep rural roots. One of those former farming communities that became a haven for downtown workers overnight. For 50 years or so, the mascot of Frisco High School was the Racoon...referred to in rural areas as Coons. The Frisco Coons.There is a Catholic school in the Dallas area: Bishop Lynch. They informally referred to their sports teams as the Lynch Mob. You can probably guess the rest of the story on both. One more innocent than the other...but both attacked and castigated. Idiocy. Pretty soon Nabisco is going to have to change the name of the creame filled snack cookie. If we keep responding to every possible racial or ethnic slight like it was 1957, then we will perpetuate the attitudes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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