Pitchfork Media's reaction to the new record

[NightOfJoy]

Is there any truth to the rumor that Jay Bennet is a silent partner at PF?

[lost highway]

If Pitchfork's opinion is so irrelevant than why is it being anticipated/discussed so much?

[adl6690]

If Pitchfork's opinion is so irrelevant than why is it being anticipated/discussed so much?

 

Regardless of whether or not Wilco fans see it as relevant, it's just interesting how others see music, that's all.

[mpolak21]

That's why bands hire managers like Clell Tickle.

 

I don't think it sounds like a deravit: Clell Tickle

 

 

--Mike

[u2roolz]

 

I used to be a movie snob somewhat. I went through a period where I hated everything that I saw. About 3 years or so ago, I lightened up. I tend to avoid any movie reviews nowadays. I've spent enough time on this planet to know what I should tend to see and what I should run away from (miley cyrus).

 

Music is a bit of a different thing altogether. I tend to rely on friends and friends of friends to hear about new bands or older artists I may have missed while bingeing on The Clash. Yeah, some of those friends may be influenced by Pitchfork, Rolling Stone and whatever publication shapes minds. But like a few of you, I get angry when people jump off the bandwagon of any band almost as if it has a 2 year period where it's cool. We tend to live in a very fickle environment where American Idol is one of the top rated shows. (spending some minutes to think of what to say next)...

 

I respect you if you like what you like. At least you have some emotional connection with any art than I can respect you. We may disagree on bands, movies, etc but somewhere we're all kind of the same with our own arsenal of such art forms.

 

I guess I get upset when people treat things as throw away items. As if that's the way they were brought up, music and movies are no different to them than getting an ice cream sandwhich. Which in some cases that's all that some "bands"and "singers" are to music execs. But if you bring young people up on shit movies and music than you kind of need a big brother or big sister to lead them in a way. While I think Pitchfork may be a somewhat good alternative, it may lead some of these types of folk to band jump by following everything that Pitchfork seems to write about. I don't know. But from working at a movie theater in the past, I can definitely say that 90% of the customers were between 12-20ish.

 

Kristofor

PS Too busy with grad school papers to fully flesh out my thoughts. That's all I got for now.

Edit: I should point out that a very close friend of mine turned me onto Wilco in 2002/03. I still don't know where he found or heard about them. Ok, he told me Rolling Stone.

[mpolak21]

This review is the epitome of pretty much everything I hate about pitchfork: Jim O'Rourke: Halfway To a Threeway

 

--Mike

[Guest Speed Racer]

This review is the epitome of pretty much everything I hate about pitchfork: Jim O'Rourke: Halfway To a Threeway

 

--Mike

 

Wow. Just wow.

[u2roolz]

(Maybe Jim actually took my advice.)

 

Wow, talk about being delusional. This is one of the first Pitchfork reviews I've read in full. This guy sounds like he seriously thinks that musicians actually take what he says into thought on their next album. He really seems like he thinks he's as powerful on a level as a Fox News or CNN.

 

Kristofor

[bleedorange]

This review is the epitome of pretty much everything I hate about pitchfork: Jim O'Rourke: Halfway To a Threeway

 

--Mike

 

I don't have a problem with that. In fact, the way the critic illustrates the intense personal connection with O'Rourke actually aids the reader by spelling out where he is coming from, I think.

[adl6690]

(Maybe Jim actually took my advice.)

 

Wow, talk about being delusional. This is one of the first Pitchfork reviews I've read in full. This guy sounds like he seriously thinks that musicians actually take what he says into thought on their next album. He really seems like he thinks he's as powerful on a level as a Fox News or CNN.

 

Kristofor

 

I know. The reviewer actually goes as far to attack Jim on a personal level... it's crazy how little the music is actually talked about.

[Central Scrutinizer]

This review is the epitome of pretty much everything I hate about pitchfork: Jim O'Rourke: Halfway To a Threeway

 

--Mike

I bet this guy talks loudly on his cell phone in public, as if people are dying to hear whatever he has to say.

[Guest Speed Racer]

I bet this guy talks loudly on his cell phone in public, as if people are dying to hear whatever he has to say.

 

...and sighs heavily and glares when he notices someone scoffing at him for this behavior.

[u2roolz]

[bjorn_skurj]

This review is the epitome of pretty much everything I hate about pitchfork: Jim O'Rourke: Halfway To a Threeway

 

--Mike

Oy.

[SGL]

 

No way... No one at pitchfork is anywhere near as cool as Ari Gold.

And none of them would want to hung it out... Unless it was an obscure indie musician (but they would do more than just hug... )

[bjorn_skurj]

Oy.

AND he spelled "camaraderie" wrong. Ass.

[jff]

I know. The reviewer actually goes as far to attack Jim on a personal level... it's crazy how little the music is actually talked about.

 

For the record, the reviewer is the founder and president of Pitchfork. Pathetic.

[u2roolz]

Ari Gold is the first thing that popped into my mind when One Wing and Speed Racer talked about someone on their cell phone.

The Stay Puft Marshmallow Man is the first thing that that popped into Ray Stantz' mind when thinking about the last thing that could hurt NYC.

 

Kristofor

[Ghost of Electricity]

it's been about a year since i read pitchfork. You folks are making think i should go back and do it again just so i can have an opinion.

[Preferred B]

For the record, the reviewer is the founder and president of Pitchfork. Pathetic.

Wait, there's a president of Pitchfork? I don't know why I find that concept so hilarious, but I do.

[Wilco (The Album)]

Pitchfork can suck it.

[willywoody]

In Atlanta the main place where people go to get the new releases by "cool" bands is Criminal Records. I read an article about Criminal and the state of the music retail economy a year or so ago. They said when Pitchfork gave something a high score, sales went through the roof.

 

my local indie store owner said the same thing to me.

[cloudsofhiss]

my local indie store owner said the same thing to me.

 

Of the six "Best New Music" albums on the pitchfork frontpage, none are in the iTunes or Amazon MP3 top 25 selling albums. Their commercial influence is limited to a small and pretty insular group of people.

[Guest Speed Racer]

Of the six "Best New Music" albums on the pitchfork frontpage, none are in the iTunes or Amazon MP3 top 25 selling albums. Their commercial influence is limited to a small and pretty insular group of people.

 

The small, insular group of people that buys physical copies of records at local stores instead of downloading low-quality mp3s?

[Wild Frank]

I'm not sure if there is anyone on here whose heard of 'Pitchfork', but there is a track review of 'Jolly Banker' up on their site this morning. A pretty positive review actually.

 

"Don't let that quaint waltz-time signature or that singsongy chorus fool you: "The Jolly Banker" is a pretty pissed-off song. Woody Guthrie's Depression-era tune accused bankers of having pretty much every ulterior motive imaginable: "When money you're needin' and mouths you are feedin', I'm a jolly banker, jolly banker am I." It gets worse: "I'll come down and help you/ I'll rape you and scalp you." Like Guthrie, Wilco play it more as lightly satirical than as angrily outraged. As an acoustic guitar strums out a 3/4 beat and the organ and slide guitar careen gently into each other, the lilt of the melody first conceals the banker's wrongdoing, the finally reveals and contrasts their sinister extremes. It could have fit perfectly on either of the Mermaid Avenue albums, although this cover sounds more post-cratered-economy than pre-Y2K. Money where their mouth is: Wilco are offering the song free on the web site, with a suggested donation of $2 to the Woody Guthrie Foundation and Archives."