Ted Kennedy to be succeeded by a toolbag

[Good Old Neon]

Or, they not only dislike Coakley, but also disagree with her stance on the issues.

 

True, but given that her stance on the “issues” is not far removed from Kennedy’s, I think there is something more at play here.

[bleedorange]

Perhaps you don’t pay attention, and given your terse, one or two sentence responses to most political topics, I’m going to guess that, by and large, you don’t, it is true, the GOP has been running on and selling little more than fear for the past few elections. Obama’s campaign may have been hollow, but he didn’t crisscross the nation accusing McCain of being a Muslim, in league with Middle Eastern and lefty terrorists – among a hundred other false accusations – several of which are STILL being bandied about by Republicans.

 

Can you provide examples in which Obama’s campaign made similar, whacked out, entirely fear-bred claims against McCain?

 

Don't accuse the McCain campaign of that. Since when do some fringe lunatics of a party begin to speak for the entire party and the campaign of its nominee?

[Sir Stewart]

True, but given that her stance on the “issues” is not far removed from Kennedy’s, I think there is something more at play here.

 

Boredom?

[MattZ]

Thanks for noticing.

 

Yeah, sorry, I guess it wasn't a particularly insightful observation. Let me offer some more banal and passive-aggressive observations in the form of questions:

 

I guess these voters would also do away with universal health care in MA if they had the option? And since they don't have that option, would turn down health care if they lose their job and get sick?

[Sir Stewart]

Yeah, sorry, I guess it wasn't a particularly insightful observation.

But, it was! You wouldn't believe it but some of the conversations I've encountered/heard about include the argument that they don't want universal health care coming here.

[Good Old Neon]

Don't accuse the McCain campaign of that. Since when do some fringe lunatics of a party begin to speak for the entire party and the campaign of its nominee?

 

When their name is Sarah Palin, and she whips crowds into a frenzy with her claim that Obama palls around with terrorists?

 

"Our opponent ... is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country. This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America." - Sarah Palin

 

http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/07/pals_around_with_terrorists_palin_wasnt_rogue_after_all.php

[bleedorange]

When their name is Sarah Palin, and she whips crowds into a frenzy with her claim that Obama palls around with terrorists?

 

http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/07/pals_around_with_terrorists_palin_wasnt_rogue_after_all.php

 

The Bill Ayers connection was tenuous at best, but it wasn't an outright, blatant lie either. It was worth bringing up. Of course, Palin proved to be a gigantic albatross around McCain's neck and the people in the campaign were not pleased with how she handled the nomination.

[MattZ]

But, it was! You wouldn't believe it but some of the conversations I've encountered/heard about include the argument that they don't want universal health care coming here.

 

Oh, sorry.

[Good Old Neon]

The Bill Ayers connection was tenuous at best, but it wasn't an outright, blatant lie either. It was worth bringing up. Of course, Palin proved to be a gigantic albatross around McCain's neck and the people in the campaign were not pleased with how she handled the nomination.

 

In the way it was intended to be understood, it was a complete lie. And, as the article I linked to points out, the McCain campaign pretty much penned her message:

 

McCain HQ had suggested the following line: "This is not a man who sees American as you and I do -- as the greatest force for good in the world. This is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country."

 

At the event, Palin said this:

 

"Our opponent ... is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country. This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America."

 

It’s amazing to me that that folks even need to be reminded of the sorts of misinformation put out by McCain’s campaign and the Republican Party more generally, and the way they behaved, is our memory really so short?

[isadorah]

So let me get this straight. This election in MA is operating as a proxy for the national debate on healthcare. And the people voting against it (ie, by voting for Brown), live in a state that already provides them with healthcare? Have I got that right?

 

I was wondering the same thing, but thought maybe I was confused being that I come from the land where people with voting rights continue to keep a population greater than that of Wyoming from having voting rights. Americans make absolutely no sense when it comes to how they vote and what they are voting for. and I am not really sure how a democrat stronghold like the Kennedy seat can produce and support a not so strong democrat candidate, ever. It is like the VA Gov race all over again. Where are we finding these piddly candidates at in the Primaries AND why aren't we standing by them during the general elections. Who is running this party? C'mon Tim Kaine get it together already. (and by We I mean democrats being one myself, although i am ready to go the no-affiliation route being we can't seem to legislate,or run a campaign, our way out of a paper bag with the numbers we have).

[watch me fall]

Brown = Elvis?

[Guest Jules]

Perhaps you don’t pay attention, and given your terse, one or two sentence responses to most political topics, I’m going to guess that, by and large, you don’t, it is true, the GOP has been running on and selling little more than fear for the past few elections. Obama’s campaign may have been hollow, but he didn’t crisscross the nation accusing McCain of being a Muslim, in league with Middle Eastern and lefty terrorists – among a hundred other false accusations – several of which are STILL being bandied about by Republicans.

 

Can you provide examples in which the Democrats made similar, whacked out, entirely fear-bred claims against McCain?

No, I'm just kind of busy.

[Wilco Worshipper]

So I've read a little bit of this and a little bit of that. I've been inundated with more ads than I've seen actual television programming. I wish they weren't allowed to do negative ads but they are. My 11 yr old even expressed her disgust for them stating, "If I become President, I'm going to make it illegal to do those."

 

Brown came in for a "shake hands and kiss the babies" dealio to my restaurant a few weeks ago. Honestly, none of us had a clue who he was. (Doesn't say much for us, I guess, I know.) But I very much know who Coakley and Kennedy are! He gave me the heebie-jeebies and he put out a very "I'm a greater person than you" vibe. Not that this is reason enough to NOT vote for him but it certainly left a bad taste in my mouth.

 

I, personally, would've voted for Kennedy but for fear of everything "going Republican", I didn't...*sigh*

[ikol]

Can you provide examples in which the Democrats made similar, whacked out, entirely fear-bred claims against McCain?

 

I think the fear of Palin being Vice President was a major reason that McCain lost the election. Apparently, people have forgotten that our nation has a time-honored tradition of being run by incompetent morons. Hell, most of the Obama administration can't even properly file an income tax return.

[isadorah]

Hell, most of the Obama administration can't even properly file an income tax return.

 

 

I think by that you mean most politicians, etc. as I am pretty sure there's a lot more out there than just the Obama administration folks. Or maybe it is that those that came before them had other skeletons in their closest that were much more note worthy. of course, everything i just said is biased wild speculation.

[u2roolz]

 

Interesting article...

 

Racy Pics Do Not Matter Because He's A Dude via Newsweek

 

Some choice quotes, "I'm not ashamed of my body," Brown told Cosmo. "I work hard enough to keep it in shape. When you go to the beach, you automatically seek out the best bodies, female and male. Why should it be different in a magazine?"

 

Brown told "the girls" reading Cosmo that he's one to "snuggle over the longer haul."

 

Edit: Sorry for the somewhat offensive language in the pic. It was the only one I could find with his current pic attached.

[ikol]

I think by that you mean most politicians, etc. as I am pretty sure there's a lot more out there than just the Obama administration folks. Or maybe it is that those that came before them had other skeletons in their closest that were much more note worthy. of course, everything i just said is biased wild speculation.

 

That definitely applies to most politicians, including those in the "Hope! Change! Yes we can!" administration.

[Tweedling]

No, I'm just kind of busy.

You know if you put "fuckhead" in your posts 15 or so times they would be much longer and obviously more qualified.

[u2roolz]

Martha Coakley really dropped the deuce on the following potential bumper sticker.

 

If It's Brown, Flush It Down!!

[Sir Stewart]

Martha Coakley really dropped the deuce on the following potential bumper sticker.

 

If It's Brown, Flush It Down!!

I'm amazed that Brown's campaign OKed the mailer I got the other day, that read "Black Friday" (pic of credit card) "White Christmas" (pic of snowflake) "Brown Tuesday" (pic of calendar). Sounds messy.

[Sir Stewart]

WBUR radio is reporting that the Coakley camp has heard from "multiple, independent sources" that ballots pre-marked with a vote for Brown are being witnessed at polls across the state.

Could be a long, dirty night.

[Sir Stewart]

Well, there its is.

[bobbob1313]

And facebook goes wild!

 

Some samples:

 

"Pulled off the unthinkable!"

"A republican wins in Taxachusetts! Wow!"

"We did it!"

"Coakley lost. I find this fucking hilarious that a Republican has that fat bastard's seat former seat."

 

The Republican's shitty candidate beat the democrat's shitty candidate in a special election. This is obviously a huge win for the Republicans.

 

That seat is up again in 2012, right? Can't wait to watch this "independent thinker" vote straight down party line for two years and then get his ass bounced when the Democrats find someone who doesn't suck.

[WilcoFan]

True. I just hate that shit regardless of what "side" it comes from.

 

Divide and conquer.

[Sir Stewart]

Yeah. This one's from my sister's husband (or maybe her, they share the account):

WE WON!!!!!!!!!! Great job everyone on helping with the campaign. Massachusetts is definitely ready for a change. True change will be coming shortly. Hold tight for the "Miracle of Massachusetts" will be set in motion very shortly.