General Political Thread

[lost highway]

I just caught more fracking mud from America's favorite news source, Stephen Colbert.  I found it interesting that not only had a number of families gotten sick, seen their plants die, their sink water become flammable, but apparently the industry has paid many families to be quiet about it.  Including in my home state of Colorado.  Everything I learn about natural gas makes me like it less.

[Hixter]

I just caught more fracking mud from America's favorite news source, Stephen Colbert.  I found it interesting that not only had a number of families gotten sick, seen their plants die, their sink water become flammable, but apparently the industry has paid many families to be quiet about it.  Including in my home state of Colorado.  Everything I learn about natural gas makes me like it less.

http://cogcc.state.co.us/library/GASLAND%20DOC.pdf

[KevinG]

At least Jesse Jackson has stepped up to the plate and strongly condemned frowned upon the man's murder. I guess we can expect a tweet from Al Sharpton describing the murder as being "in poor taste" any minute now.

 

I wonder if you actually believe what you write or are just being purposely controversial to get a rise out of people.

 

Both this case and the martin case are tragedies. What is shameful is that two sides are using these events for political purposes. However the right is more so disingenuous. I get the feeling that the outrage isn't about the death of the man in OK it is about how the media refuses to cover it.

 

There are many murders a day, some get covered some do not.

[Hixter]

However the right is more so disingenuous.

Absolutely untrue. Referring to the Trayvon Martin case, Jesse Jackson claimed that "blacks are under attack" and "killing us is big business." But the most he can muster in this case is a frown. The president injected himself into the Martin case but he's been silent so far. I assume he'll eventually say something, but perhaps he has to practice his frown in front of the mirror first.

[bleedorange]

I didn't even know the kids who shot him were black.

[lamradio]

The driver is white.  He must be part of the 10% of white people that the shooter doesn't think are nasty.  

[Guest Jules]

He's not white white, if you know what I'm saying.

 

I'm with Hixter on this one.

[KevinG]

The president injected himself into the Martin case but he's been silent so far. I assume he'll eventually say something, but perhaps he has to practice his frown in front of the mirror first.

This is what I was talking about and just shows how disingenuous you and others are on this. PBO only made his martin comments after he was asked a question about it. It is not like he came out on the rose garden and made a travyon Martin speech.

 

You are using this man's death to make a political point. You are no better than jackson and Sharpton, whose behavior was abhorrent during the martin tragedy.

[Guest Jules]

peanut butter origami

[Hixter]

PBO only made his martin comments after he was asked a question about it. It is not like he came out on the rose garden and made a travyon Martin speech.

No, he did come out and make a 15-minute speech at the White House.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/07/21/the-full-obama-speech-on-trayvon-martin-and-race-in-america-video/

[Sir Stewart]

http://cogcc.state.co.us/library/GASLAND%20DOC.pdf

 

Man, you are sober and thoughtful in your posts 99% of the time here, and your sources are almost always trustworthy. That said, you dropped a few notches here.

[Hixter]

Man, you are sober and thoughtful in your posts 99% of the time here, and your sources are almost always trustworthy. That said, you dropped a few notches here.

Pointing out out a Department of Natural Resources document that explains that methane in drinking wells comes from natural sources and isn't related to fracking is dropping a few notches?

[NoJ]

Cuyahoga!

[Sir Stewart]

Pointing out out a Department of Natural Resources document that explains that methane in drinking wells comes from natural sources and isn't related to fracking is dropping a few notches?

 

Yeah. I don't have the focus or energy to back that up right now, sorry. Just yeah.

[Tweedling]

No, he did come out and make a 15-minute speech at the White House.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/07/21/the-full-obama-speech-on-trayvon-martin-and-race-in-america-video/

powned 

[Atticus]

Here in our nation's capital every conceivable effort is being made to exploit/cash in on MLK's memory. I'm sure he'd be so proud.

[lost highway]

http://cogcc.state.co.us/library/GASLAND%20DOC.pdf

 

Alright, the gas company says it's ok.  Settled.

[John Smith]

Trayvon Martin Shot Feb 2012, speech referenced above July 2013.

[Hixter]

Trayvon Martin Shot Feb 2012, speech referenced above July 2013.

And that makes it any less political?

[KevinG]

No, he did come out and make a 15-minute speech at the White House.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/07/21/the-full-obama-speech-on-trayvon-martin-and-race-in-america-video/

 

Maybe I should explain myself here.  So I don't get POWNED as Tweedling so skillfully pointed out .  

 

Hixter you said this:

 

Three teenage boys kill man for the fun of it.  How long before Al Sharpton demands justice and President Obama likens the victim to his son? Oh wait 

 

which I assumed is how you felt PBO was putting himself in the middle of the case.  Which as you can clearly see it was a t press conference.  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/23/obama-trayvon-martin_n_1375083.html

 

Since you referenced speech was after the verdict I am not sure how he injected himself in the case when it was actually over.  Also everything PBO has said on this issue has been relatively measured.  Now this case in OK is in its infancy as there has been no trial.  And if the trial gets the national attention that the Martin case does and the President stays silent you might have a point.   

 

Let me explain myself more on this issue and where I am coming from.  What the liberal community did with Martin case was terrible.  They used this young man's death and tried to push their agenda.  I don't think they cared about Martin's death.  They just wanted to point out what is wrong with race relations in this country.  

 

Now what the Right is doing with the OK case is even more terrible  They don't want to point out what is wrong with race relations they want to point out what is wrong the Liberals.  The Right just found a case that fit their narrative and exploit it.  

 

You seem to be so concerned with the political nature of what PBO, Jackson, Sharpton, et al did, but yet you seemingly refuse to acknowledge the political nature of what you and the right wing media is doing.  This is what I find so disingenuous.

 

No one really cares about these tragedies they are only using them to push an agenda.

[Tweedling]

powned was a pjoke. 

The comparison that Obama drew between he and Trayvon was IMO careless and only exacerbated the racial tension that surrounded this entire case. Those were the comments he voluntarily interjected and that's why I "thumbed up" the link.  

[caliber66]

between him and Trayvon.

[Sweet Papa Crimbo]

 

Maybe I should explain myself here.  So I don't get POWNED as Tweedling so skillfully pointed out .  

 

Hixter you said this:

 

 

which I assumed is how you felt PBO was putting himself in the middle of the case.  Which as you can clearly see it was a t press conference.  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/23/obama-trayvon-martin_n_1375083.html

 

Since you referenced speech was after the verdict I am not sure how he injected himself in the case when it was actually over.  Also everything PBO has said on this issue has been relatively measured.  Now this case in OK is in its infancy as there has been no trial.  And if the trial gets the national attention that the Martin case does and the President stays silent you might have a point.   

 

Let me explain myself more on this issue and where I am coming from.  What the liberal community did with Martin case was terrible.  They used this young man's death and tried to push their agenda.  I don't think they cared about Martin's death.  They just wanted to point out what is wrong with race relations in this country.  

 

Now what the Right is doing with the OK case is even more terrible  They don't want to point out what is wrong with race relations they want to point out what is wrong the Liberals.  The Right just found a case that fit their narrative and exploit it.  

 

You seem to be so concerned with the political nature of what PBO, Jackson, Sharpton, et al did, but yet you seemingly refuse to acknowledge the political nature of what you and the right wing media is doing.  This is what I find so disingenuous.

 

No one really cares about these tragedies they are only using them to push an agenda.

 

This is probably another statement that you would prefer to ignore

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57403200-503544/obama-if-i-had-a-son-hed-look-like-trayvon/

[Tweedling]

pbetween him and Trayvon.

Dick tionary?

[IRememberDBoon]

 

Florida court records reviewed by Reuters showed Zimmerman was involved in at least two previous legal incidents, including a 2005 domestic violence case with his former fiancee.

 

Zimmerman, who at the time worked at an insurance agency, and his ex-fiance both sought restraining orders against each other after getting into a pushing match. In her complaint, Veronica Zuazo said the two had been involved in two physical fights in 2002 and 2003.

 

Zimmerman was also arrested and charged with resisting a law enforcement officer with violence in 2005. The case was eventually dropped after he completed a program to avoid being formally charged.

see how dumb that is?