Doug C

I can't stand Jay Farrar's "God-given voice"

So you believe in a fallible God?

My neighborhood real Mexican joint took it to Bonnaroo. Any Bonnaroo attending VCers partake? It's a nice perk being able to walk to the Taco Bus for authentic Mexican.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/article1175457.ece

yeah and you are a major d-bag...............but who is keeping score?...............

It wasn't today but in 2006, Steve Earle covered 'Rednecks' on the Newman tribute album "Sail Away".

As someone completely unfamiliar with the books I like it for the most part but am a little confused. I am having a hard time picturing the societal structure i guess. who's who, and why certain groups are enemies. Also, the vocal recording seems to be low to me or something, because it's always hard for me to hear the dialog, which doesn't make understanding everything any easier. But overall I am liking the series.

Greg,

I am also unfamiliar with the books but am enjoying the series. Also, like you, I had trouble with the societal structure. I found this viewer's guide on the website. It has a map and interactive family trees. After spending some time reading all of it, I am no longer confused.

http://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/index.html#/game-of-thrones/inside/extras/extras/viewers-guide.html

That is a strange picture. What in hell?

I think that I will PM Duckman and ask him what he meant. After reading the post again, I don't get the feeling that politically active Bono was what he was getting at. Either way, it has to be the oddest Tweedy criticism that I have ever come across

The fruits of bored labor can sometimes snap me out of said boredom. While bored I was using the search function at jayfarrar.net, looking in vain for an old thread and came across the following gem of a post. It was on a thread asking if anyone was going to see Wilco on their current, Sept-Nov. 2004, tour. I am hoping that it will spark some replies here but I certainly could be wrong.

This was posted by Duckman of Bergen, Norway on Thursday, September 16, 2004:

"I just can't get around to liking Wilco...

I've really tried, bought A.M and Summerteeth, and downloaded the rest of the albums.

And I really like the stuff Tweedy did in Tupelo, so it's kinda' sad that he's turned out all Bono.

So I've just given up."

I guess that it has to do with political speechifying? I remember the MSG NYE 2004 show we attended where Tweedy made some anti-Repub cracks. But "all Bono"?

In science, a current theory is a theory that has no equally acceptable or more acceptable alternative theory.

 

There are many alternative scientific theories backed by evidence that the sun, water vapor, cloud cover, ocean temperatures, etc. have more impact on the earth's temperature than the minuscule percentage of man-made CO2 in our atmosphere. The earth gets warm and it gets cool but not on account of anything man is doing. It is a natural cycle that has gone on since time began. I figured an educated person like yourself would be aware of that. Most science teachers who work in my school believe that as well. I am not going to debate this with you here. How have those snow-less winters been going for you? I've got to run so I can type up my resignation.

 

Just in case you think I'm making that up...

 

More Than 1000 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims

Scientists Continue to Debunk Fading “Consensus” in 2008 & 2009 & 2010

 

My link

Sparky,

I live in Tampa, FL. The snowless winters have been snowless. They aren't going so well for me. I like snow. By mentioning those snowless winters, are you implying that weather and climate are the same? They aren't. How do you feel about the theories of gravity and evolutuion? I am sure that you can find 1000 scientists offering alternative theories. That doesn't mean that they aren't the accepted theories by the scientific community. Do the science teachers in your school wear tinfoil hats? I appreciate you typing your resignation. Anything that will help my profession gain more respect is appreciated. Oh, and I'm sure that you are going to debate this with me here. It's what you do.

I don't think so; you promote a socialist doctrine, yet what if I as an individual do not want to give my money for whatever social program you offer? Today it is forcibly taken from me; if I refuse the IRS comes after me or whatever government agency. The fact is no matter how noble a socialist cause, without the consent of an individual, is an infringement of his freedom which the United States (used to be) is all about.

I am not cryptique but if I may be so bold as to respond (is that a complete sentence?).

According to your quoted response, you should be able to give consent to all taxes. You must define our current tax system and all of our previous tax systems, including that which we were founded on as 'socialist' because citizens have never been able to give direct consent to any taxes.

Let me say it was one of the best shows I ever saw Wilco put on and I have seen alot. It was also the furthest I ever went for a Wilco show.It was generally a good time, but it was cold that night and we stood outside waiting for the band to maybe come out and that water on me sure was cold. Could it have been six years ago? Maybe. Rosehill Drive opened (and drove folks out of the auditorium) and it was at the end of a great trip I took with a friend. it probably wasn't you guys. I am fine with drunks as long they behave themselves.

Definitely the same concert because I agree that it was one of the best shows that I ever saw Wilco put on and I have seen alot and Rosehill Drive opened. Definitely not me and/or my pal that threw water on you because after the show we didn't wait around outside for the band. We went back to Barley's Tap Room. Whew! That's a relief.

And for the record, I am not a drunk by a long shot. I just happened to be drunk.

I move that every time someone hears a song in a commercial and said song was not specifically written for the commercial, a thread should be started to discuss the merits of 'selling out'. If that thread does not reach at least 41 pages in 2 days, Via Chicago must be shut down. Do I hear a second?

There is no such thing as selling out anymore. There is also some car commercial with Paul Simon's "The Only Living Boy in New York" and another commercial (maybe cars, I can't remember) with a Kinks song in it. Any band these days that wouldn't take a commerical would be a bunch of fools. Bands allow themselves to be used in TV shows as well. It is all fair game.

 

I am just unaware of which of the new bands are in commercials, but i am guess it is a ton. What struggling band wouldn't take a payday and take a few weeks or months off as a result?

 

Selling out is so 60s man!!!

 

LouieB

Lou, you didn't think that I was serious, did you?

Isn't it ironic that the very same folks who were leading the fear-mongering last year in a previous thread about the theory of man-made global warming, or climate change, or whatever you guys are calling it now, are now accusing me of fear-mongering and being concerned about the real and probably the worst environmental disaster to hit our planet in our lifetimes. Where is the concern being shown by the global community who for years have preached about the theoretical end of the world scenarios of catastrophic climate change when a real threat to mankind is currently raging in all it's fury? Let's be consistent here people. I'd take your global warming any day over this...

Sparky, though I did make a zombie joke earlier I am concerned about nuclear power in general and this accident in particular. Not to the degree that you are, though.

As a fellow educator, I must say that I am disturbed by your bolding of the words 'theory', 'theoretical' and 'real'. In the context that you did this, I assume that you are saying that a theory isn't real and is lacking supportive evidence. If I am correct in my assumption, then Good God please resign your teaching post. If I am incorrect in my assumption, then I apologize and request that you explain what you did mean by the aforementioned bold type.

Thank you.

Then there were the guys who yelled at me in Ashville when I turned around, threw water at me and told me not to turn around again. Was in in danger? Maybe not, but that was some seriously creepy and threatening behavior too.

Lou, was this the Oct. 14, 2005 show at the Thomas Wolfe Auditorium? If so, an apology might be in order. I do not engage in the type of behavior you described but North Carolina had recently legalized high abv beers so almost all of the taps at Barley's Tap Room were big beers and I am a big beer enthusiast. Long story shortened, my pal and I were uncharacteristically way out of our heads, so on the slim but possible chance (I did do something disgusting during the show) that we were the d-bags in question... please forgive us, we knew not what we did. If ever our paths cross, the first round's on Doug C.

I was going to put this in it's own separate thread but since the original post of this thread was about Ron Ayn Rand Paul, I decided that it was thread-appropriate:

http://www.npr.org/2011/04/12/135171116/the-rampant-rise-of-ayn-rand-o-mania

So should we all stop eating food?

Yes. Until the zombies arise. Then you can munch human flesh.

I heard a Pogues song in some car commercial this morning.

 

LouieB

I move that every time someone hears a song in a commercial and said song was not specifically written for the commercial, a thread should be started to discuss the merits of 'selling out'. If that thread does not reach at least 41 pages in 2 days, Via Chicago must be shut down. Do I hear a second?

I'm voting for cryptique

Ditto. Or at least the economic platform he posted above. In that particular situation, cryptique speaks for me.

For sure....That was a new low.

 

LouieB

At least as vile was the disgusting Saxby Chambliss and his surreal, but successful, portrayal of Max Cleland. I still get angry thinking about it. Alas, it really points to how stupid the electorate is, though.

What is it that they stand for?

rape.

Best reply to a post in the history of message boards. I honestly laughed out loud. Several times. Bravo!!

"Ron ayn Rand Paul 2012" would without question be fully supported by Wilco.

I would file this on under Junk Science.

Why? The research shows a positive correlation between clinical depression in teens and music listening and a negative correlation between clinical depression in teens and reading. If there is a correlation, then there is a correlation. Remember, correlation is not causation. As in this example that I have used for years in my Advanced Placement psychology classes: Research shows a positive correlation between ice cream sales and drownings. Does eating ice cream cause drownings? Of course not. A 3rd factor or lurking variable is the source of the correlation. Summer temperatures, for example. It is the same in this study. As the lead researcher said, "Pediatrician Brian Primack, at the University of Pittsburgh who was the lead author on the study, says it's more likely that depressed teenagers are turning to music for solace, rather than music being the cause of the mental illness. "They don't feel like doing anything," Primack says. "They don't have a lot of energy, and this is a place where they can go and they don't have to perform."

Parents may want to think about depression if a child is retreating into music, Primack says. "Depression is harder to discover in young people compared to older people," he explains. "Sometimes the signs and symptoms in adolescence are different. Maybe there's more irritability as opposed to sadness." Music may be a clue that a child needs help.".

I am using this article to review correlational studies with my AP psych students. The timing is perfect as we are engaging in our final review preparations for the exam on 2nd of May.

It is far from junk science. It is science. The more warning signs that we have for at-risk teens, the better. I wouldn't automatically assume that my music-loving teen was depressed, hell I was a music-loving teen and was not depressed. I would add it to my checklist and go from there.

Or you could take his stick away.

It might not be that simple. Trying to remove his stick could go awry and it would have nothing to do with the police officers being wussies or unable to disarm an 8 year old. A physical altercation is always an unknown. Pepper spray is less so. It is so easy for us to say it would have been so simple to do "X" but the reality is that only the officers were there. An investigation may determine that they acted prudently. Or it may not.

Let's say that talking the child down was proving ineffective. The chance of the child stabbing the police or someone else was increasing. He needed to be neutralized. The police decide to physically intervene. The child resists. He screams, kicks and hits. The officers realize that they need to be more forceful. The child inadvertently is bruised, cut or gets a dislocated or broken limb. The public outcry would be huge.

It seems prudent to use pepper spray. It's purpose is to safely subdue a violent person. I am a parent and grandparent but I honestly don't understand all the hubbub regarding this situation.

I can see both sides. I wasn't there. I can't determine how the child was acting, how those actions affected the thought process of the police, etc. If they assumed that the safest way to end the situation was with pepper spray, I can respect that. On the surface, "Oh my God! The cops pepper sprayed an 8 year old!!", sounds brutal and ill-conceived but I give the police a wide berth, discretion-wise. I can't imagine the split-second decision-making required in matters of potential physical harm, not to mention life and death. It is reasonable to determine that the police followed procedure and did what was considered to be best. That being said, it is also possible that it was a complete overreaction. But as I wasn't the officer involved, I can't say.