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Where is my prize for somehow weaving Jackyl into a Via Chicago thread?

I think you are right, it is all production issues. However, in my mind I always think of bands like The Four Horsemen, Slaughter or who was the Chainsaw band in the late 80's, the lumberjack song, anyway when I think of the first Crowes record. Likely not because the music is in anyway similar, but because that is the stuff my brother was listening to.

I think we have all decided Wilco's touring will end after terrible reviews complaining of the band's singing in faux British accents and swapping bizarre phrases such as "arse and bloody" instead of the normal lyrics. It is a sad story.

you are probably right, but on a large scale, I think Soft Bulletin brought it home.

YES for sure on Blue Mountain - Dog Days also... Golden Smog - Down By The Old Mainstream Steve Earle - Transcendental Blues (the only Steve Earle album I like, sorry if it was 2000)

Just had Thick n Thin come on the ole Ipod shuffle on a jog the other day. I probably looked foolish jogging while playing air drums. love that song. you know, I always think of that first record as a band that could have gone either way, late 80's hair band or what they became. I don't know what their true intentions were, but whatever happened to them between SYMM and SHAMC is quite startling or maybe it is just production quality. All I know, even though it takes me to be in a special mood, the Black Crowes esp Southern Harmony-Three Snakes flat out kill me. What a band. I'm anxious

And some more Weezer - Pinkerton Black Crowes - Amorica Uncle Tupelo - March 16th-20th Bottle Rockets- Brooklyn Side and............the Screamin Cheetah Wheelies - self titled debut (no joke) Oh yes Lucinda - Car Wheels (good call again)

YES YES YES Jayhawks Sound of Lies Richard Buckner Since (this is truly a masterpiece. I mean I was obsessed with this) YES YES YES Good Call guys.

At the end of day, not that I absolutely love this band, but I think it would be hard to argue against The Flaming Lips (all for one album Soft Bulletin) I don't believe we would have the whole experimental pop explosion that occurred without them.

A few other greats from that Decade Mercury Rev - Deserter Songs Primal Scream - Give Out But Don't Give Up Counting Crows - Recovering The Satelites Lemonheads - Shame About Ray Pernice Brothers - Overcome By Happiness Neil Young - Sleeps With Angels (his last great album IMHO)

Southern Harmony is truly amazing, largely recorded live in the studio with few overdubs. Just an unbelievable raw album. Hum was a band from Champagne IL. Think a much more indie sounding pumpkins. They were not great by any means, but their debut album is a very worthwhile listen in a 90's alternative way. They had a single called "Stars" that you probably heard, it got frequent airplay for awhile.

I know this is straying but I can quickly throw out some unbelievable albums that changed my life (during my formative years in the 1990's) in no order except for #1 1. Uncle Tupelo - Anodyne (my favorite record ever) 2. Black Crowes - Southern Harmony 3. Son Volt - Trace 4. Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream 5. Dinosaur Jr. - Where You Been 6. Wilco - Being There 7. Wilco - SummerTeeth 8. Flaming Lips - Soft Bulletin 9. Radiohead - The Bends (I will always prefer this over OK Computer) 10. Hayden - Everything I Long For 11. Whiskeytown - Strangers Almanac 12. Scud Mountain Boys - Massachu

I just can't let this go unchecked. This comment shakes me at my core. I can't believe I just read this. The Black Crowes Son Volt Dino Jr. Lemonheads Flaming Lips Pumpkins Whiskeytown Wilco Jayhawks Hayden These are just favorites, can't really say they are the best of the 90's. Porno for Pyros? read as sarcasm

ok, no I was just reinforcing the absurdity of "you and I" being offensive to someone. Sure it could be called fluffy, dad rock, MOR, but to say you hate it seems a little hard.

Should tell me something about me? or about the song? I'm slow help me out!

I thought the little face icon at the end of my statement denoted my sarcasm. I was being a sarcastic jerk in response to the previous comment. I actually really like "You and I" and think Wilco has a hit on their hands if marketed properly. So, anyway, I should have not tried to be a smart ass in the first place.

Yeah, "You and I" is truly awful, I have never had such a gut level hatred for a song before. I mean the melody is non exsistent, the guitars sound like a wild pack of wolves, the singing is off key and tasteless, the production is a joke (the vocals are so down in the mix). And don't even get me going on the lyrics. This is two year old meanderings. I mean cmon, really? I truly feel there is little if any redeeming quality to this song.

"We literally put 15 minutes of noise on a record that did not raise an eyebrow, but if you make a pop song with Feist on it, people are going to cry like the sky’s falling." Now that is funny, and about 65 people on this board just pissed themselves.

Devendra Banhart Smokey Rolls Down Thunder Canyon I'm finally giving this the time it deserves. I like it. Parts are beautiful.

Open Road is it, I'm telling you all. "Don't let the changes get you down man"

I hope this discussion about setlists or quality of live show doesn't ever get to the point of questioning how giving of a band this is. They do switch up the setlists and work to mix up different cities on every tour, different venues, etc. If Tweedy and CO sometimes feel like the fans can't be pleased I would understand that sentiment. My issue is more of do I love this as much vs. are Wilco doing there best to entertain and keep it fresh. The more I think out loud I believe that this is 80% me and 20% what Wilco is or isn't doing.

I'm not smart enough nor patient enough to sit here and define a feeling or emotion or a perception. I thought my posts described my reaction to past Wilco shows relatively clearly. I'm open to the idea that someone can go to a Wilco show tomorrow and have their mind blown. Actually I believe that is probably happening. For me however, I haven't had that reaction the last 3 or 4 times I've seen them live. And I'm open to the fact that this may not be a Wilco thing but a me thing, because I'm sitting here thinking when the last time I was blown away with a live show. The Avett Brothers wer

The intensity I'm referring to had some of these elements, but it never seemed staged like you are implying. Maybe the guys weren't completly in control of themselves for some reason (?) which I'm not saying is cool. I'm just explaining how it felt. It was like I always imagined a rock show to be, unpredictable, a little scary/dirty, and a pure spectacle. All from a band at the time who had no buisness acting like this, which made it halfway funny. It was a tad bit amateur like I read about Mats shows.

I keep reading these posts about setlists and for me, it is missing the point. I have seen Wilco over a dozen times, and I can only remember once questioning the setlist (opened a show in 2000 with 6 straight slow Mermaid Ave songs, felt like the slowest train starting up a mountain). Anyway, for me it isn't about what they play. This isn't a hits band, anything they play will be welcomed for the most part. Are there a few songs they run into the ground (IATTBYH/Handshake/A Shot In The Arm?) Sure, but does this truly bother anyone? My issue is the current VIBE. I just don't feel the e

"The Pied Piper of Peace" You know, usually that kind of thing mixed with music is a miss for me. However I think Donovan does it sincerely and for some reason I accept it and it works. Kind of how I sorta feel about Devendra Banhart. It isn't my wave, but I dig your passion for the wave you are riding.