Synthesizer Patel

I don't really want to explain why I used the word 'complex'. Let's just say your interpretation of why I used it was wrong. I am fine in the notion that Jeff was justified in hitting the bloke. I've always said that. I also think that the guy probably was a complete numpty. I've never disagreed with that either. I have only ever taken issue with the fact that he was a threat. How many people would have posted the same comments in this thread if Jeff had put his arm around the guy and kissed him back? Nothing would have changed accept Jeff's responce to the situation - that phantom threat

good - this is more complex than even i at first thought!

That's very true. But wouldn't he have shot him at some other point if he couldn't do it on stage? It's not like Wilco give you a pat-down before they sign autographs and have their pictures taken and have body guards, so I don't think they are frightened of their fans.

? Of course a girl's finger in the eye or up the nose isn't gonna do half as much halm as a man's, so Dylan is right not to be fearful. 'Be Not So Fearful' doesn't someone sing that?

I'll just clear up, what my point was on all this. I believe that if Jeff Tweedy punched or did whatever he did to the guy because he thought he was a twat, then I am ok with that (I wouldn't have done it myself, but I can understand why someone would be angry with that behaviour), however if he did it because he felt threatened then I feel kind of sorry for him to have that view of that situation. I personally think he did it because he thought the bloke was a twat - I mean, it's kind of interesting that he didn't run off which would definately have given the game away that he felt fearful. M

Well yeah, there is a difference. The uninvited hands mean I can still hear the music I went to see, unless they put them over my ears - then I'd be pissed. It's a bit like someone you don't know in a bar coming up to you because they are drunk and hugging you and giving you a kiss on the cheek, compared to someone soberly coming up to you and hugging and kissing you because they want to violate you in some way or other. There is a massive difference. This guy hasn't invented jumping on stage, you know many people have done it before him, and the reason they do it is to get up there and hav

I really have no problem with Jeff Tweedy hitting/man handling (or whatever he did) a drunk person who gets up on stage or telling some drunk in the crowd to cut it out, or even someone getting punched in the crowd because they are acting drunk, or any such thing. All that is totally fair enough to me. If you act like a prick to people then you deserve to be punched. But, it is just an annoyance, nothing more than that. It's simply a distraction from what's going on up on the stage, but so is someone singing the words in your ear, or shouting for their favourite song, or dancing on your toes -

There is certainly something amusing in the fact that the security weren't there to 'protect' the band from this guy, and then ultimately it's this guy who could've done with some secutity himself to protect him from the band. I wonder at what point, in his mind, it changed from him thinking it'd be fun to get up on stage and touch/kiss jeff tweedy to him suddenly realising perhaps he shouldn't be doing this? I assume he won't be doing that again, anyway.

What exactly is wrong with getting on stage? Personally I wouldn't do it, but if it was me I'd just sit down and listen to the songs and clap at the end of them (certainly not after they've sung a line I think is cool or some such thing, for example). This reminded me of this:

Anyone else seen this yet: Uncut Magazine Wilco News We are being watched, people!

tory mp boris johnson - one of the few politicians i really like. he's someone i can just sit and listen to talk whatever he's talking about. boris johnson part 1 boris johnson part 2 boris johnson part 3

the black guys one, had a touch of class about it, I must admit.

tell that to the man who called himself Wazzack without knowing about the 90 day bit.

I've got nothing to add about the tab, as it's all be answered and it's a very simple song to play, but I just thought i'd put a link to myspace where I've just uploaded a cover of the song. nissy tapeye

I forgot to say earlier, although this is really a non-story, that I went on a ghost hunt about 4 years ago on halloween in Pluckley which is the most haunted village in England (apparently). pluckley info we began in the pub to pluck up some courage, saw no ghost there, although that too is haunted, then walked the streets, finally finishing up for a couple of hours in the church yard at midnight until it got too cold and we drove off home. for all our bravado beforehand though, we never danced around the devil's bush (see the article for details)

i liked that story, especially the fridge door bit. i don't believe in ghosts, but i do love ghost stories.

this is both hilarious and disturbing in equal measure the punchline at the end says it all, i think

grind house

hello, back. As for this whole 16 inch softball thing. We played that at school in the south east of england too. I can't remember the ball being hard, or certainly nowhere near as hard a cricket ball, but it was bloody hard to catch it with one primary school-sized hand, and two hands never did look as impressive to the girls.

Actually I think you're right! I thought he'd be a bit more camp when he reached for his head, but there you go. I just found out he's doing/did a show for Fox about dancing. Apparently this woman was on it, doing this:

I used to be Big-Bank Hank. Sorry, I never come in here, but all that talk of vomit and a kids face violently hitting the ground made me post. I assume that's what you meant by who am I? As opposed to just a statement about who am I to say the skull-cap provided no protection.

I don't think it is Nasty Nigel, he looks very similar, but I could be wrong.

I like the fact that his little white skull-cap provides no protection at all. I think that judge is reaching for his head because he is so shocked that the cap didn't stay on. Oh, the other part I like is when his legs go limp. Limp legs are a true barometer of pain.

I wanted to make a whole Marshall Stack type thing of them, but apparently you can only post three pictures at once.