markosis Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Someone brought up the point of the guys playing for like 2-2 and 1/2 hours a night. That's a long ass time to be on stage. Id say to be able to get 6 guys to play for that long and to be able to play each song super-frigging tight you need to keep things somewhat similar. These guys can't be expected to memorize 60-70 songs and change the set list dramatically every night. Then they'd get sloppy and people would probably bitch about how sloppy they're playing. So, let em do their thing. The 2 times I've seen them in the past year it has been incredible. Im not complaining. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighFives Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I'm just glad I got to see em play new madrid with the current line up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whiskeygirl Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 i have a simple solution, don't go to their shows and you won't have anything to complain about . . . now, how easy was that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WilcoFan Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Tomorrow's 9:30 show will be the first time I have not attempted to buy tickets to see Wilco when possible. I saw them in Chicago this year and thought that was enough. I have seen them lots of times but I am tiring of their show and haven't fell completely in love with their new stuff. For those who are bored, try something else. I went to an MWard concert this year and he played a little more than an hour including the break between the sets. So be thankful that Wilco is still willing to get up there for 2 hour shows everytime. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parisisstale Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Since June of 2004, I've seen them play: Kicking TelevisionOne By OneCars Can't EscapeChrist For PresidentPassenger SideCandyflossMagazine Called SunsetCasino QueenSunken TreasureShe's A JarJust A KidIn A Future AgeFar Far AwayOuttasite MondayJust A Kidall the MSG New Years' Covers As far as I'm concerned, they've mixed it up fine. If I need to hear all of Summerteeth, I'll pop in a show from 2000. It's pretty much been summed up already: if you don't like what they're doing, don't go. If I hear one song per show that I haven't seen before, I'm kool and the gang. Here's hoping that tomorrow it's LNGCA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 When this thread came up during Spring Tour,someone (sorry I can't remember who) said something that hit home for me:setlist Zen is the key to enlightenment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 People who say they hate It's Just That Simple are the same one's who say Pet Sounds is a great album just to sound cool! Just jooking around................................. And yes,for christ's sake,Let John sing one here and there!Please. But wait, Its Just That Simple is one of the worst songs, and Pet Sounds is a great album, and I never thought it made me cool (beach boys is really pretty dorky). There is however a new Autumn Defense out soon, you can hear him sing a lot of soft rock without anyone else shaping his ideas (except perhaps for the ever versatile Sansone). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 The same old songs being played for pretty much the past 4 years now?? I mean, come on, Wilco has such an extensive catalog and we're constantly bombarded with the same 15-20 tunes show after show after show. Wilco has put on some of the best shows I've seen in recent years and since I'm a sucker, I continue to see them every time they come around, but I'm very tired of the tunes. Don't flame me too hard for this. I know I am coming a little late to the party here...but I could't resist. Rabid fans of a band (like all of us here) need to realize that we are not the norm. You have to recognize that Bands are not tailoring their every move to keep it interesting for us. Not everyone in the audience has attended multiple shows and has multiple bootlegs. I have heard this complaint about Springsteen for years. The advent of the internet has made following a band's every move much easier. MP3's, DATs and the like have made 'bootlegging' unrecognizable to those of us over 45. Yes, we have more access and information; however, many of us are becoming jaded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Franky Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 This is for the people that are comparing Wilco, the Stones, and Dylan. First of all, I saw Dylan 3 nights in a row, with 57 songs in total. 57 SONGS! Of course you're gonna hear Like a Rolling Stone or Highway 61 ect. because out of the many thousands of people in the arenas that he plays, not many are gonna want to hear his version of Delia or whatever. As for the Stones, I think they're pretty much reduced to their hits because of how things played out for them. I saw them last year and when they played any one of their newer songs, the audience was restless and loud. It is extremely hard to change your set list drastically every night. I saw wilco 4 times in the last year, and although Ive heard Jesus Ect., ITTBYH, HMD and all of their bigger hits 4 out of 4 times, I certainly wasn't bored at the shows. I always get something new out of the experience, whether its parts of a song, solos, the crowds reactions ect. Ive also yet to see Wilco play a song half-heartedly, and if there's anything I'm tired of, it's emotionless performances. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wheelco Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 I would have liked to have seen I Got You, frankly I also would have liked to have seen Muzzle of Bees, Hell Is Chrome and Poor Places And there really would be nothing wrong with Pick Up the Change but, as with all of us, I take what they give Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Ya know, if I hear one more person scream "Casino Queen" at a show I will scream myself. CQ has become the Wilco equivalent of Free Bird..... Two more lame thoughts. One, people here seem to WANT new material played at shows and two, the material off Summerteeth and YHF (and to an extent AGIB) is going to be identified and sought by the bulk of Wilco fans forever. LouieB Dear LouieB, Welcome to 2002. Sincerely yours,The people who have hated the idiot frat boys who yell for "Casino Queen" since 2002. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouisvilleGreg Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 "Someone brought up the point of the guys playing for like 2-2 and 1/2 hours a night. That's a long ass time to be on stage. Id say to be able to get 6 guys to play for that long and to be able to play each song super-frigging tight you need to keep things somewhat similar. These guys can't be expected to memorize 60-70 songs and change the set list dramatically every night." When the guys in the E Street Band were around the age, Wilco is now, they and Springsteen were playing shows that were 3-4 hours nightly and dozens of different tracks. Was that just an entirely different era where bands did that and fans expected it? Would a 3 hour Wilco show be a good thing? I don't think falling back on some older songs would be a bad thing, there's some potential for very interesting reinterpretations of "A.M." and "B.T." tunes. I mean "Dreamer In My Dreams" is dying for a 2006 reworking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Basil II Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 "Dreamer In My Dreams" is dying for a 2006 reworking. Man....I LIKE how you think!!! -Robert. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
street spirit Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Someone brought up the point of the guys playing for like 2-2 and 1/2 hours a night. That's a long ass time to be on stage. Id say to be able to get 6 guys to play for that long and to be able to play each song super-frigging tight you need to keep things somewhat similar. These guys can't be expected to memorize 60-70 songs and change the set list dramatically every night. Then they'd get sloppy and people would probably bitch about how sloppy they're playing. So, let em do their thing. The 2 times I've seen them in the past year it has been incredible. Im not complaining. on Pearl Jam's NA tour this year they played over 90 of their own tunes, and a couple dozen different covers... if you count songs that get partially tagged onto Daughter it was over 125. On last year's Canadian tour, that was only 16 dates, they did 97 unique songs. For the record, I'm perfectly happy with any Wilco performance I get to see, but knowing how to play what seems like a huge amount of songs isn't necessarily an impossibility. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meso Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Well, they've certainly gotten much better about working in new songs to the setlist. Pretty much what they've always done between albums, as long as I can remember. That said, a little more Being There and Summerteeth and a little less YHF and AGIB would be welcome. Not that I don't love those two albums, they've just been played to death (though not without reason). But like other people mentioned, hearing some of the older stuff reinterpreted by this lineup would be amazing. At the least it's always a fun surprise and at best it's sometimes revelatory. Fer instance, the version of In A Future Age they've started playing more recently is startlingly good. Still holding out for Hotel Arizona... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
~A~ Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 This is for the people that are comparing Wilco, the Stones, and Dylan. First of all, I saw Dylan 3 nights in a row, with 57 songs in total. 57 SONGS! Of course you're gonna hear Like a Rolling Stone or Highway 61 ect. because out of the many thousands of people in the arenas that he plays, not many are gonna want to hear his version of Delia or whatever. As for the Stones, I think they're pretty much reduced to their hits because of how things played out for them. I saw them last year and when they played any one of their newer songs, the audience was restless and loud. It is extremely hard to change your set list drastically every night. I saw wilco 4 times in the last year, and although Ive heard Jesus Ect., ITTBYH, HMD and all of their bigger hits 4 out of 4 times, I certainly wasn't bored at the shows. I always get something new out of the experience, whether its parts of a song, solos, the crowds reactions ect. Ive also yet to see Wilco play a song half-heartedly, and if there's anything I'm tired of, it's emotionless performances.Right on about Dylan. That man is always changing it up. And at this juncture, each time he plays a tune it might sound new. As for Wilco, they don't strike me as the type of band that is going to change the set list up all that much which is fine --on the same tour. But this time around I am hoping to hear more new stuff and some other older songs, maybe some other covers. I'd like to hear New Madrid sometime again soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nobody Girl Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Still holding out for Hotel Arizona...You and me both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gobias Industries Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Am I the only one hoping for Pieholden Suite? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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