dark heat Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 First, it should be noted that I love this track BUT, is there anyone else here who thinks this song should be about twice as long as it is? Yes, it's already 5:35, but when I hear those big guitar slams come in after the second verse, I think it's just begging for a huge epic jam. Or even just add another verse and an explosive final chorus or something. I don't know, I really like it, but to me it has kind of an unfinished feeling. I don't think it would suffer from being any longer since it moves along at such a slow pace Also, if it were indeed ten minutes long I think it would provide the kind of anchor / centerpiece type song which is the only thing I feel the album is lacking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I don't love the song. It's okay. I would probably hate it if it had an "epic jam" in the middle of it. It already sounds enough like a Grateful Dead song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 What your getting at is that you want another Spiders? I think it was wise to move away from that. Plus any song over 6 mins automaticlly gets a minus in my book. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdmel Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 What your getting at is that you want another Spiders? I think it was wise to move away from that. Plus any song over 6 mins automaticlly gets a minus in my book. with keving's picture did anyone else hear dwight when reading his post? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dark heat Posted March 7, 2007 Author Share Posted March 7, 2007 What your getting at is that you want another Spiders? I think it was wise to move away from that. Plus any song over 6 mins automaticlly gets a minus in my book. Not necessarily another Spiders. I see the studio version of Spiders as more of a mood / texture piece than an "epic jam" like I want with Shake it Off. I guess I just think the song would use another verse or something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I wish Hate It Here was about fifteen seconds longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 my ex-wife always wanted me to last 15 seconds longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
welch79 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 my ex-wife always wanted me to last 15 seconds longer.zing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAngerer09 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I also thought the jam on this song could go on much longer than it does. Why not showcase the great guitar work even more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 with keving's picture did anyone else hear dwight when reading his post? Funny thing is I actually look a bit like Dwight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I also thought the jam on this song could go on much longer than it does. Why not showcase the great guitar work even more.Why not save it for the live shows? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danelectro Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Why not save it for the live shows? Bingo. I get the impression many of the songs on SBS are going to be tweaked for extended live jamming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dontknownuthin Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I feel better thinking of Shake It Off's potential as being "sacrificed", rather than "wasted". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WilcoFan Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 The Dead and Pink Floyd influences are strong here. It could have been a huge jam, they obviously were trying to stay away from jams on this album. A missed opportunity in my book too. Also, for SBS, I wonder how all of this is going to come off live. I can't imagine standing at the 9:30 Club and listening to this set of songs. To me, this solitude, mellow album would be much cooler if I saw Wilco playing them at a lounge where you could sit around on velvet couches and listen and chat amongst your friends. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Also, for SBS, I wonder how all of this is going to come off live. I can't imagine standing at the 9:30 Club and listening to this set of songs. To me, this solitude, mellow album would be much cooler if I saw Wilco playing them at a lounge where you could sit around on velvet couches and listen and chat amongst your friends.How could you possibly hear it over all the shushing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
owl Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 The one that I like the least is Impossible Germany. That said, it all sounds pretty good. I'm looking forward to hearing a higher-quality version of SBS, so that I can fully assess it and decide whether to buy it. Until then, I won't be listening to it again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quarter23cd Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Many of the songs on this record give the feel that they could be greatly expanded in a live setting...which I would welcome. But there is nothing about this song that makes me think "Gee, I wish this took up a quarter of the album's running time!" Although I do kind of feel that way about the middle section of "You Are My Face". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I wish Hate It Here was about fifteen seconds longer.Hate It Here sounds like it could be the missing track off of Yellow Submarine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheMaker Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Shake It Off sounds like nothing to me so much as the revamped live Kingpin. Anybody else getting that vibe? It sags a bit, though, and feels like a plane trying to take off while its docking clamps are still locked. This wasn't one of my favourites live, but they've gussied it up a bit for the album, at least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Artifex Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I love the chorus of Shake it off, and that whole bit after it. The verse, not so much. Lyrics are cool, vocals okay, but I find the chord progression just a bit...silly. Still like the song though, when the flangy wurly kicks in with the drums and that killer, footstomp groove, it makes it worth it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gobias Industries Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I love the moist-sounding synth part in the one part... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quarter23cd Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I love the moist-sounding synth part in the one part...This sounds dangerous. Water & electricity don't mix, kids. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JamesEric Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 "Shake It Off" has the most Phish/Grateful Dead feel to it especially with that phaser-coated electric piano. It could be my least favorite Wilco track to date. The vocals sound lazy. The jam at the end is the kind of music I tend to steer away from. And if a jam is going to erupt, I'd prefer it to sound more like "At Least That's What You Said." Congrats, Nel's guitar - you sound like Joe Walsh and YES And that's not meant to be derogatory. But again, classic-rock is not my scene. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jethro Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 First, it should be noted that I love this track BUT, is there anyone else here who thinks this song should be about twice as long as it is? Yes, it's already 5:35, but when I hear those big guitar slams come in after the second verse, I think it's just begging for a huge epic jam.I actually think the opposite, it's a song that would have benefitted from some harsh love in the editing room..., editing room..., editing room..., editing room..., editing room. Then again I'm also kind of bored with 57 nothings, as heretical as that might sound on the Wilcoboard. I also find it troubling that you were hoping for an epic jam. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YouAReMYface Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 to me shake it off shouldve been shaken off the cd all together....my least favorite song on SBS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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