negstimwa Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Hi - I live in NYC and every time I hear this song I think of 9-11. I had downloaded the Yankee Hotel Foxtrot CD prior to 9-11 and Jesus Etc. was not on it. Was this written later after 9-11? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdmel Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 before, everything on Yankee Hotel Foxtrot is pre-9/11... just eerie lines throughout the album Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hodie Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 And Wilcobase says Jesus, etc. was first played live in June 2001. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theologian Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 I remember listening to the song on repeat on 9/11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bhickman Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Jesus, Etc was, in fact, the last song written for the album. Notice how different the vibe is from the rest of the album. It could almost fit on "Sky Blue Sky" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Col. Hapablap Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 I remember Jeff saying that YHF was originally supposed to come out on 9/11, but then it was postponed when the band left Reprise and had to find another record label. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jdmel Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 It could almost fit on "Sky Blue Sky"It does, its called "Impossible Germany", I really feel that the early part of the song is crying out for the strings in jesus, etc. and have it build up to the back and forth between nels and jeff.... i really like impossible germany but i dont get into it until the end. When I hear jesus, etc. I jump right in, I wish impossible germany had that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unposed_question Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Jesus, Etc was, in fact, the last song written for the album. Notice how different the vibe is from the rest of the album. It could almost fit on "Sky Blue Sky" I think Jesus, etc. fits in quite well with the vibe of YHF. How is it different from the casual, mellow songs of Kameraor Pot Kettle Black, and Ashes of American Flags? This is easily one of my favorite Wilco songs, due to the combination of the lyrics and the strings. At first, I thought I was listening to a Steely Dan song. Oh how wrong I was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SarahC Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 "Jesus Etc." was the first song on YHF when I first heard the leak. I remember it was a Wends. and I was working on math homework, but took a break to put the cd-r in the cd player that used to live in the den. When the strings kicked in I stopped my homework and sat there and just listened, like intensely listened, for the enitre song... I think that's the moment Wilco became me favorite band... sorry for going vastly off-topic... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yankhotelfox Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 This is easily one of my favorite Wilco songs, due to the combination of the lyrics and the strings. At first, I thought I was listening to a Steely Dan song. Oh how wrong I was. Me too. Is it my imagination or have the live versions lately sounded much differently than they used to? The string parts seem to have given way to more synth. which is pretty disappointing. Maybe someday they'll perform it with an orchestra, that would kick ass! BTW, Dan rules! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unposed_question Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Me too. Is it my imagination or have the live versions lately sounded much differently than they used to? The string parts seem to have given way to more synth. which is pretty disappointing. Maybe someday they'll perform it with an orchestra, that would kick ass! BTW, Dan rules! I'm a *huge* fan of the Hammond Organ (one of the many reasons I love Wilco) so it doesn't bother me so much, but it does alter the mood of the song. The live versions of "Jesus, etc." mostly bug me because of the crowd sing-along. Never in a million years would I have guessed that it would become one of those songs. Someone out there much smarter than me must know this, but didn't they play a version with strings on either Leno or Letterman? I think it's somewhere out there in the ether. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 There's a lovely version that was just Jeff on acoustic guitar with a single violinist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unposed_question Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 There's a lovely version that was just Jeff on acoustic guitar with a single violinist. Do you have information on which show it was? I would love to hear it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boywiththorninside Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 They played it on Leno with strings. It used to be on You Tube. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 > Do you have information on which show it was? I would love to hear it. it was at a recent living room show.... recording isnt out yet though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 it was at a recent living room show.... recording isnt out yet thoughActually, the recording of that song is the only part of the LR show that's been released thus far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jethro Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 "Jesus Etc." was the first song on YHF when I first heard the leak. I remember it was a Wends. and I was working on math homework, but took a break to put the cd-r in the cd player that used to live in the den. When the strings kicked in I stopped my homework and sat there and just listened, like intensely listened, for the enitre song... I think that's the moment Wilco became me favorite band...Really? I got the leak in early July of 2001 (not through great connections or anything, I just happened to run across it online, viva la 56k!) and the track order and song mix was definitely the same as what was eventually released. I remember thinking the rip was bad because of that skip in the feedbacky bit at the end of IATTBYH. Even knowing it was written well before 9/11 I still connect it with that because that's what I was listening to pretty much non-stop at the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hodie Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 That song is the prime example I use whenever I hear of someone trying to find the "definitive" meaning of a song's lyrics. Even if you manage to discover somehow exactly what was in the writer's head when it was written, it doesn't mean much, because the meaning will absolutely change later. Whatever the phrase "tall buildings shake" meant when Jeff wrote it, it means something utterly different now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unposed_question Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Actually, the recording of that song is the only part of the LR show that's been released thus far. Can someone send me a PM showing where I can get a copy of the recording? Many thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Here is the original link, which is expired. If I remember to, I'll make a new link tonight. Feel free to send me a PM to remind me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magusmachine Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 did you ever upload it again? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam2 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 That song is the prime example I use whenever I hear of someone trying to find the "definitive" meaning of a song's lyrics. Even if you manage to discover somehow exactly what was in the writer's head when it was written, it doesn't mean much, because the meaning will absolutely change later. Whatever the phrase "tall buildings shake" meant when Jeff wrote it, it means something utterly different now. Jay Bennett wrote the chorus to the song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 did you ever upload it again?Whoops. Here you go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ray Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Jay Bennett wrote the chorus to the song. I have heard and read that Jeff and Jay wrote that song in that age old method of "I have a chorus, you've got a verse - let's put it together" but I had never confirmed who wrote which. Not meaning to doubt you in any way, but I'm just curious - where did you find out that Jay wrote the chorus? I would say that the song definitely sounds a lot like him in the chords and structure overall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam2 Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 I'm pretty sure there are a few articles where it comes up and JB mentions the collaboration as being their/one of their last (and that Tweedy played drums on a demo or something). As far as I know, the verses are Tweedy and chorus is Bennett, and they combined them. Also in the interview Bennett mentions that the song was titled Jesus, Don't Cry but he was lazy and labeled a cd of it "Jesus, etc." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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