MrRain422 Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 i'm not great with quessing who, so...a little help ? the babe was a great pitcher too. Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied lightning Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 More than a few players back in the olde days followed the pitcher-then-position-player path. I recommend "The Glory of Their Times" as a good resource and an excellent read for those interested in the Deadball Era. Link to post Share on other sites
P Dub Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 Stan The Man Musial was a great pitcher in the minors before an arm injury. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 My god, Hanley Ramirez is so much better than Jose Reyes, it makes my brain hurt that ESPN still calls Reyes "The Most Exciting Player In The Game". Can't wait for Baseball Tonight tonight when Steve Phillips declares Reyes is MVP. Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 You seem to have a complex about it. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 It's the only thing I've got going for me. Link to post Share on other sites
jenbobblehead Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 after all this time i am amazed that fox sports announcers think that those in attendance at games are booing when Youkilis is up. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 after all this time i am amazed that fox sports announcers think that those in attendance at games are booing when Youkilis is up.You got the game on Fox out there, huhn? The national black-outs are the only part of Saturday I don't care for. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 Ankiel with 2 more homers. Wow. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 So much for the Sweep... The home team in the Marlins-Mets series this year is like 2-9. Crazyness. Link to post Share on other sites
Oil Can Boyd Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 The Boston Herald had a great headline the other day: Gagne with a Spoon.Who knew they would be able to use it again so soon ... Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted August 12, 2007 Share Posted August 12, 2007 So much for the Sweep... The home team in the Marlins-Mets series this year is like 2-9. Crazyness.That really should have been a sweep going the other way. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 That really should have been a sweep going the other way. You cannot defeat the awesomeness that is Hanley Ramirez and Josh Willingham. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Ramirez is good, sure, and Wagner has been so very good this year, it's hard to get pissed over a blown save. But Guillermo "I was much better while taking steroids" Mota effin' grooved that pitch to Willingham. Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 I'm curious what people make of Bobby Jenks' retired batters streak. The record doesn't have a large footprint in the baseball world. Here's part of a local write-up from Saturday (he's since retired three more batters). Jenks came into Saturday's game having retired an American League record-tying 38 in a row. He is just three short of Jim Barr's major league record 41 set in 1972. Since allowing a two-run homer to Ryan Garko on July 17 -- he got the final three outs that night to start the streak -- Jenks has thrown 12 consecutive perfect one-inning appearances. In that stretch, he has struck out 11 and picked up eight saves and a win. He has pitched in three one-run games, six two-run games and one tied game, and lowered his ERA from 3.89 to 2.98. To get those 39 outs from 38 batters -- he induced a double play on July 24 to get out an inherited runner -- Jenks has needed just 139 pitches, or 3.7 per batter.Anectdotally--it seems like he's induced a crazy amount of weak groundouts during the streak. Link to post Share on other sites
boywiththorninside Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 That Jenks streak is impressive. However, I fully expect Joba Chamberlain to break this and every other pitching record by the time he retires. Based on his two relief appearances, I can say without hesitation and without hyperbole that Cy Young's 511 wins and Nolan Ryan's strikeout mark are within his reach. I've seen the future of pitching, and it's name is Joba Chamberlain. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Hee. Remember Mark "The Bird" Fidrych? Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 I'm curious what people make of Bobby Jenks' retired batters streak. The record doesn't have a large footprint in the baseball world. Here's part of a local write-up from Saturday (he's since retired three more batters). Anectdotally--it seems like he's induced a crazy amount of weak groundouts during the streak.Sounds like he's got a pitch that is, for now, fooling all the batters he's faced. Pitchers get white-hot sometimes; see Orel Hershiser's infelicitous scoreless-innings streak in the 1988 postseason. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 "Most exciting" is not the same as "the best". If it did, then there are several other guys who should be pissed about Reyes getting tagged that way before Hanley Ramirez. I would agree that Hanley is better, but I would argue that Reyes is more exciting to watch. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 And Hanley suffers by playing for a team that, despite winning two world championships, hasn't really found its niche in the national media consciousness. Had he remained with Boston, he would be a much bigger star. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Sounds like he's got a pitch that is, for now, fooling all the batters he's faced. Pitchers get white-hot sometimes; see Orel Hershiser's infelicitous scoreless-innings streak in the 1988 postseason. Brandon Webb currently has a 33 inning scoreless streak going. Pretty impressive. And I'd argue with the Reyes being more exciting than Hanly simply because Hanley's a much more complete player, but that may just be because I've gotten to watch him every day for 2 years. And I still think a player like Miguel Cabrera is more exciting than them both. Any schmoe can steal 50 bases, it takes talent to split your pants during a game and still got 3/4, which I'm pretty sure he did a few weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Hanley's a much more complete player The crux of my argument in the "Reyes is better than Ramirez" debate often rested in large part on how Ramirez is so atrocious in the field and that they are basically a toss up at the plate. So I leaned toward Reyes. I was at Sat pm's game and Ramirez is a flat out stud. Even in the field. Made a couple of brilliant plays on balls and ranged quite far. I tip my cap. Still not sure who I'd pick, but I have to admit that it might be Ramirez. Oh, and screw you, Nerdy. Link to post Share on other sites
Oil Can Boyd Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 I'm curious what people make of Bobby Jenks' retired batters streak. The record doesn't have a large footprint in the baseball world. Anectdotally--it seems like he's induced a crazy amount of weak groundouts during the streak.It is impressive but I have to wonder about any major league record held by Jim Barr. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Still not sure who I'd pick, but I have to admit that it might be Ramirez. Oh, and screw you, Nerdy. I don't know what it is about the Marlins, but we play infinitely better on the road than at home, and the season series with the mets is the perfect example. Some people on the Marlins board have said it's because they like playing in front of a lot of people, and while I can't really say I think thats true, it's starting to make sense. We've taken 2 out of 3 at shea twice, and gotten swept by the Mets at home twice... Link to post Share on other sites
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