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I know this thread belongs to the "In the future age" section, but I would like to have the opinion of most of you guys.

 

You probably know the great Archive.org website, if not go and discover the Ali Baba's cave. Amazing bands list here.

As an example, just check out Ryan Adams section over there. 218 shows available in lossless format, mostly soundboards/matrix from 1998 until the latest show 7 days ago !

 

I was wondering why Wilco is not yet present amongst the bands and recordings featured on the website.

Wilco is a taper friendly band so I guess they'd agree with fans uploading shows to the Archive and have more people discover the great live band Wilco is.

 

Here's the pre-requisite to post shows at the Archive.org :

We'd like to make sure that a trade-friendly band would not mind having their shows in the Archive for public download.

The best way for us to find out is by getting permission from a band representative or by the band's having an explicit

policy that covers this type of site. If there are no shows by the band, either we don't have enough of this information

to go forward with archiving, they have declined participation, or we are ready to accept shows but no one has uploaded

anything yet. (Also, see the band status FAQ).

 

So, anyone ever tried to have Wilco present on the Archive ? Is there any management restriction already mentioned ?

 

If not, I'd be happy uploading a lot of shows I own (lossless). Hope we can join forces and make it the one place to bring freely Wilco shows to the masses.

 

Cheers,

 

Samuel

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The Archive would be a perfect place for Wilco shows.

 

There are so many instances when people want to hear just one certain song from a show, but don't want to download a huge .flac torrent of the whole thing just to hear one song (like a song that is rarely played, or something along those lines).

 

It is also great for people who don't use torrents and for people like myself- my university was targeted last year by the RIAA and we (Ohio University) were ranked the #1 downloaders of illegal music. Our school has since spent a ton of money on software that tracks everyone's p2p use and our internet gets shut off if we get caught with torrents and such.

 

It is also great because it would be a one stop place for all Wilco shows that are taped and if you recently attended one and want to download it as a keepsake type of thing, you know where to go.

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I have someone in mind to write the note. I am going to read over the FAQ's and also, work on the list of shows out there right now + what I have.

 

I assume we will not be accepting tour compilations or studio/demo tracks for this project.

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...nd also, work on the list of shows out there right now + what I have.

 

I'll do the same and, if it turns out well, we can share the upload task.

Of course the more uploaders, the better !

 

Samuel

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I just finished searching bt.etree, dime a dozen, pure live gigs, and tape city.

 

Maybe we can attempt to make a master list - I have my list in Excel - but we can't upload that sort of file here. I suppose we shall have to do it via email. I did not mess with any Uncle Tupelo shows - as that probably involves dudes outside of Wilco - maybe we can get UT shows up there if we are successful in getting Wilco up there.

 

 

I have the following info on my list:

 

Band--Date--City/State/Country--Source--Download Complete-- Torrent Site

 

 

Wilco 9/10/1995

Wilco 1/31/1997

Wilco 2/19/1997

Wilco 4/23/1997

Wilco 5/10/1997

Wilco 9/4/1997

Wilco 9/14/1998

Wilco 3/11/1999

Wilco 6/23/1999

Wilco 11/23/1999

Wilco 4/28/2000

Wilco 8/12/2000

Wilco 10/5/2001

Wilco 4/24/2002

Wilco 10/29/2002

Wilco 5/1/2003

Wilco 6/21/2003

Wilco 6/28/2003

Wilco 6/6/2004

Wilco 11/13/2004

Wilco 11/19/2004

Wilco 12/31/2004

Wilco 2/24/2005

Wilco 2/24/2005

Wilco 3/15/2005

Wilco 4/13/2005

Wilco 6/17/2005

Wilco 6/24/2005

Wilco 6/26/2005

Wilco 6/28/2005

Jeff Tweedy 7/1/2005

Wilco 10/13/2005

Jeff Tweedy 11/13/2005

Jeff Tweedy 11/18/2005

Wilco 3/18/2006

Wilco 3/22/2006

Wilco 4/19/2006

Wilco 6/11/2006

Wilco 7/7/2006

Wilco 10/18/2006

Jeff Tweedy 1/21/2007

Wilco 1/23/2007

Wilco 4/16/2007

Wilco 4/18/2007

Wilco 4/19/2007

Wilco 5/24/2007

Wilco 5/25/2007

Wilco 5/28/2007

Wilco 5/29/2007

Wilco 6/2/2007

Wilco 6/13/2007

Wilco 6/15/2007

Wilco 6/17/2007

Wilco 6/19/2007

Wilco 6/20/2007

Wilco 6/21/2007

Wilco 6/22/2007

Wilco 6/24/2007

Wilco 6/25/2007

Wilco 6/26/2007

Wilco 6/28/2007

Wilco 6/30/2007

Wilco 7/14/2007

Wilco 7/20/2007

Wilco 8/21/2007

Wilco 8/22/2007

Wilco 8/24/2007

Wilco 8/29/2007

Wilco 9/1/2007

Wilco 9/2/2007

Wilco 9/12/2007

Wilco 9/14/2007

Wilco 9/19/2007

Wilco 9/21/2007

Jeff Tweedy 10/5/2007

Wilco 10/9/2007

Wilco 10/13/2007

Wilco 10/14/2007

Wilco 10/17/2007

Wilco 10/19/2007

Wilco 10/20/2007

 

Several of these I have - as mentioned above - I have that noted on my list. Of course, many of these are dead torrents.

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I'm all for it and will help any way possible. Archive.org is also great for discovering new music. I do have some friends whos bands are on Archive.org, but the first step would obviously be contacting Wilco management about it.

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A very detailed FAQ - including templates for writing letters to the band.

 

Also - we will have to change some files most likely so that they meet the following rule:

If you upload FLAC filesets to the LMA, please follow the naming standards to help the checking program here. Directories should be named with .flac16 or .flac24 suffix, not .flac. Otherwise, the program will report failures.

 

 

As of 5/2006, the upload method has changed significantly. Here is a walkthrough in PDF with screenshots. Another text description is here.

 

Before uploading any show, read the band's policy notes for this site. Many artists place limitations on their material here, and info is often updated. Please do not upload shows for any band that does not yet have a curator-created collection page here, even if you know the band has recently emailed their permission. Advance attempts may significantly complicate or delay the curators' setup process for the band.

 

Next, be sure that you are logged in as an Internet Archive member. Have the fileset on your computer already, correctly prepared and correctly named. Files must be in lossless format (.flac or .shn), from lossless parent source material; we will optionally create the extra "lossy derivative" copies (.mp3, .ogg) onsite. Prepare to create an item, following example tips here or here.

 

What file formats are accepted for contributions to the Live Music Archive?

 

Currently, the Live Music Archive will only accept audio files in either of two lossless formats: FLAC (.flac) or Shorten (.shn). Please Note that MKW files (.mkw) are *NOT* an acceptable file format for your contributions because they lack cross-platform compatibility (Mac users are unable to play or decode MKW files)

 

In addition, please do not upload the lossy files (MP3 or OGG) next to your FLAC or SHN format files - the Archive creates those files automatically, provided that the contributor agrees to having them available. This ensures that all the files here have uniform quality options selected.

 

Please follow etree.org's Seeding Guidelines when preparing your contributions for addition to the collection. Pay particular attention to the Naming Standards section. A well-named identifier helps patrons find your show in our large collection. A well-named set of files allows files to be listed in the proper order at the site, and allows patrons to listen to them in playlists and burn them to CD in the proper order, too.

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Hey, all those messages sound promising.

Let's first get in touch with the management and hope they agree :pray .

I'll have to leave this task up to you english speaking fans (although the band seems to enjoy Belgium a lot this year, I'm not sure my english and nationality would serve the cause well enough ;) )

 

Samuel

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Their reasons for declining vary. Individual notes on any given opt-out band may follow in other posts to this forum, for the record.

 

. . . .Wilco

 

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2006-05-10 10:28:31

 

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Guess, I should have looked at that sooner. Plus - maybe they just meant no soundboards. Oh well - maybe they will change their mind. If not, I would be interested in putting together a Wilco BT site or at least get people with shows to put them up on bt.etree.

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