MattZ Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Oh, I totally see your point. I see valid points on both sides of this argument, no question. But my thinking is that I'm going to err on the side of caution, and not piss off any tapers, considering that I've downloaded so many shows and therefore benefited from their (entirely voluntary) hard work. Me too. I wasn't agreeing with Szabo, but I did laugh thinking about his point. It was a fair point re unauthorized recordings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a.miller Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I'm listening to these right now, and I can't believe Zep sounds as good as they do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Szabo Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I do have much respect for the tapers. Without them I honestly wouldn't be the person I am today. I lived off of Dead shows through High School, which obviously started my obsession with live music. I know that some of them ask not to trade or convert their shows to certain formats, but regardless, it is spreading the music. As I said before, I would never spread a copy of a show that I had converted, but I do occasionally convert them because of file sizes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gogo Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I know that some of them ask not to trade or convert their shows to certain formats, but regardless, it is spreading the music.Oh, absolutely, I can definitely see the point there. Just wanted to point out that there are valid reasons behind asking people not to send stuff in mp3. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I suppose if somebody took one of my stories and left out every third word, I'd be pissed too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Szabo Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I suppose if somebody took one of my stories and left out every third word, I'd be pissed too. It'd be more like if somebody took your stories, and changed the artwork on the cover. Because technically the band is producing the music, the taper is just preserving it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I was aiming more for drawing a comparison between tapers being irked at their work being distributed in a diminished form and what I do (journalism). I wouldn't be happy if someone transcribed one of my stories incorrectly, is what I mean. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 bjorn, maybe it would be like someone reprinting your words in really small font Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Or maybe in Wingdings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 bjorn, maybe it would be like someone reprinting your words in really small fontI would see it more like taking someone else's words that bjorn printed (with or without permission), and then changing the font and distributing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I got the 1st version from Dime and it is not bad. No guarantee that a better recording will come out...plus good chance all Zep torrents will be pulls from these sites ala Allman Bros. Good point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 anyone want to trade for it on CD?.. cant do torrentsSame here. My cdr list linky is on my profile. I'd appreciate it greatly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I'll send it to you guys - no problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 I'll send it to you guys - no problem. If you see anything on my list that strikes your fancy just let me know and it's yours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 If you see anything on my list that strikes your fancy just let me know and it's yours. I have not even listened to what you sent me yet. You are getting something from August West - I think he mailed it Tuesday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hype Repellent Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 It's bad form to convert to mp3 and *trade* the show as if it were lossless. Passing it around strictly for mp3 listening is not bad form. Burning it to CD via MP3 and saying "this is lossless, enjoy" is bad form. Besides, 99% of these shows are crappy audience recordings, so it doesn't matter anyway. "oooh....I lost some fidelity on that guy clapping next to the taper!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 I'll have this up via sendspace in FLAC for those who want it - tomorrow night or Saturday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 It's bad form to convert to mp3 and *trade* the show as if it were lossless. Passing it around strictly for mp3 listening is not bad form. Burning it to CD via MP3 and saying "this is lossless, enjoy" is bad form.I agree. The assumption is that one will inevitably lead to the other, but that's on those burning CD files from MP3s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
howdjadoo Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Here's a little proggie that will even freak out "the Sound Police"having more lossy sourced discs as expected(And were unable to hear it) http://www.true-audio.com/Tau_Analyzer_-_C...ticity_Detector Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 LZ Show - part 1 of 4LZ Show - part 2 of 4LZ Show - part 3 of 4 LZ Show - part 4 of 4 These are FLAC files - in Winzip. I broke the file into four folders - to make for easier downloading. I did not change the file names - they are exactly as I got them. If anyone who wants this can't grab it this way - let me know. Note - I did not post this out of malice - but rather as a result of a request for the FLAC files. I am listening to this just now for the first time - I think it's pretty good. The vocals seem to have the strongest presence - but, that's cool, as Robert is still one of the best singers of all time. It's not 1973, but so what. Jason is not his father - watch TSRTS - but he is nailing it pretty good on Nobody's Fault But Mine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 thanks Aman! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stooka Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Your the boss, applesauce!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 will try and get them on this shitbox machine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 will try and get them on this shitbox machine After listening to the whole deal - I'd say it sounds rather good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 i had 2 of the links downloading at the same time and they froze at 80% this morning for some reason. the modem/internet was fine though. will try again soon.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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