PopTodd Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I actually don't like this record at all. Ordinarily I'm on the same page as the critical community when it comes to indie-folk stuff, but I just don't see anything here that's even remotely remarkable, try as I might. Mangum's performances on the disc are unexceptional - there are lots of shrieky off-key vocals and there's nothing remarkable or terribly emotive in terms of the music, at least not to my ear. The songwriting has always seemed scattershot and maybe even adolescent to me; it seems to suggest depth where I can't see that any exists. I find it frustrating that so many artists and listeners whose opinions I respect regard Aeroplane so highly, but at least somebody's getting something out of it. You're just one of a vocal minority in the indie community who feel that way. You're not alone.And, that's fine.As one who is completely movied by this record, I do feel badly for you. But then, I suppose that you have an album that you feel this way about that I would find completely unremarkable, as well. To each their own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 I actually don't like this record at all. Ordinarily I'm on the same page as the critical community when it comes to indie-folk stuff, but I just don't see anything here that's even remotely remarkable, try as I might. Mangum's performances on the disc are unexceptional - there are lots of shrieky off-key vocals and there's nothing remarkable or terribly emotive in terms of the music, at least not to my ear. The songwriting has always seemed scattershot and maybe even adolescent to me; it seems to suggest depth where I can't see that any exists. I find it frustrating that so many artists and listeners whose opinions I respect regard Aeroplane so highly, but at least somebody's getting something out of it. Alright Maker, that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
myboyblue Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I can't say that this album is in my top 25 or anything...however, it is definitely in my top 10 when it comes to listening while on a driving trip, plane ride, train, etc. Something about being alone and traveling with this one works well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I got this record the summer I graduated high school, and along with A Ghost is Born it really helped me get through a couple of very trying emotional experiences. When I first heard it I was pretty underwhelmed, it had been one of my top Amazon recommendations for about a year, and I finally bought it. But I couldn't stand Mangum's voice and I thought the lyrics were just way too strange. But for some reason I'd always keep playing it, I instinctively knew eventually it was going to click and then it did in a big way. It's without a doubt one of the three or four records that completely did my head in and changed the way I listened to music, and it's message and emotional core really resonates with me. It's sonically fascinating, the lyrics are really riveting, it features the zanzithophone. What more could you want from a record? --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 after listening to the album, i sat down with my cheap Giannini Spanish guitar and played along to practically every guitar note on the album.Mangum stays in the C, G, F, E, A, B and D realm throughout the whole album. are you not playing the bfs in King of Carrot Flowers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigWheeledWagon Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I love this album, but it is also the only album where I almost feel guilty listening to it. It feels like spying on someone's dreams or something. It's just so emotionally open and uses a language that seems to take more from the subconscious than the conscious. Beautiful, depressing, amazing . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trevor Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 i remember when i first started listening to more indie/less mainstream music 5 years ago, and this is one of those "highly recommended, must have" records. i checked it out, and turned it off. don't think i made it through the entire thing. mangum's voice drove me crazy. and despite the fact my musical tastes have changed GREATLY over those five years, to the point that i probably would enjoy it now, that initial reaction still lingers in my mind, and i'm rather reluctant to give this a second chance. i probably should, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thejokeexplained Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Sunday February 10th was the 10th anniversary of the release of this record. And over on one of my favorite bands (of Montreal) myspace blogs, Kevin Barns gives some of his thoughts on the importance of this release. He nails my views on this masterpiece. in honor of the 10th anniversary of the release of one of my favorite and most cherished albums of all time, Neutral Milk Hotel's "In The Aeroplane Over The Sea", i'd like to say a few words i view that album as a high water mark in music. it's amazing that such a classic and important record could remain as, somewhat, underground as it has. in a way, it's great that it has, cause it has enabled everyone who has fallen under it's spell, to feel a special, personal connection with it. the songs penetrate the fog of my mind in such an uncommon way. i have been moved to tears at NMH shows. i can't say that that has ever happened before or since. i found myself crying, uncontrollably, and I couldn't make sense of it. after thinking about it later, i decided that it must have just been my body reacting to this beautiful force that was wrapping itself all around and inside of me. it was the only way, my poor little vessel, could respond to this insane, but benevolent, energy that completely had it's way with me. the greatest aspect of the songs on ITAOTS, is that, though they are full of pain and confusion and passion and madness, they never seem self pitying or self indulgent. they never become pedestrian. i feel that, jeff mangum's voice on that record, was a portal through which, the animal agony and maniac joy of the universal human spirit, found amplification. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the carlos Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Around 1999 I had a friend I knew from the internet. She lived in Athens and had said she had some friends that were part of something special. She recommended some records and I tracked them down. The first one I purchased was The Olivia Tremor Control-Black Foilage-Animation Music(which is still a top ten record for me). The second was In The Aeroplane Over The Sea. It offered something I hadn't really come across before. The band never held a mystique for me as much as an earnestness and honesty that made me feel better about life and a way of approaching noise/sound/music/words and shaping it into something more interesting. Even the sad stuff(which for the previous 7 years had been a large part of my life). I'm still heavily into the Elephant 6 releases(all sides of it, psych,pop,collage,etc) and probably listen to On Avery Island and Everything Is, and Hype City Soundtrack as much as Aeroplane but it continues to be a big part of my life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
winter party person Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Oh comelyI will be with you when you lose your breathChasing the only meaningful memory you thought you had leftWith some pretty bright and bubbly terrible sceneThat was doing her thing on your chestBut oh comely It isn't as pretty as you'd like to guessIn your memory you're drunk on your automyIt doesn't mean anything at allOh comelyAll of your friends are all letting you blowBristling and uglyBursting with fruits falling out from the holesOf some pretty bright and bubbly friend You could need to say comforting things in your earBut oh comely There isn't such one friend that you could find hereStanding next to meHe's only my enemy I'll crush him with everything I ownSay what you want to sayHang for your hollow waysMoving your mouth to pull out all your miracles aimed for me Your father made fetuses With flesh licking ladies While you and your mother Were asleep in the trailer parkThunderous sparks from the dark of the stadiumsThe music and medicine you needed for comfortingSo make all your fat fleshy fingers to movingAnd pluck all your silly stringsAnd bend all your notes for meSoft silly music is meaningful magicalThe movements were beautifulAll in your ovariesAll of them milking with green fleshy flowersWhile powerful pistons were sugary sweet machinesSmelling of semen all under the gardenWas all you were needing when you still believed in meSay what your want to sayHang for your hollow waysMoving your mouth to pull out all your miracles aimed for me And I know they buried her body with othersHer sister and mother and 500 families And will she remember me 50 years laterI wished I could save her in some sort of time machineKnow all your enemies We know who our enemies are Goldaline my dear We will fold and freeze togetherFar away from here There is sun and spring and green forever But now we move to feelFor ourselves inside some stranger's stomachPlace your body here Let your skin begin to blend itself with mine must be some the best lyrics ever written Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I have never heard this album. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
echo Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I realize music is subjective but how a music lover could not enjoy/worship this record is beyond me. It's an all-time classic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I have never heard this album. If you have any desire change that, shoot me a PM. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thermocaster Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Some albums hit me and some don't. I have "On Avery Island" and "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea" and I put them on every so often to see if I have changed my mind but they just don't inspire me like other albums do. I remember getting "Aeroplane" when it first came out and getting Olivia Tremor Control's "Dusk at Cubist Castle" around the same time. I was blown away by the OTC album and listened to it for months. Everything I wrote musically for those few weeks after, was inspired by "Dusk at Cubist Castle." I will continue to put on the Neutral Milk Hotel albums throughout the years in hope of it clicking some day. edit: actually, looking at the release dates, I must have had the Avery Island and Dusk at the same time. Aeroplane came out in 98 so I must have had the Dusk hangover still going while trying to get on the Aeroplane a few years later. Funny, because that's happening to me right now --- I got copies of Aeroplane and Dusk at Cubist Castle about two months ago. Aeroplane has not sunk in yet, while Dusk has taken over large portions of my brain. I can't say why Aeroplane hasn't done more for me yet...but then again, it's very, very rare for any new album to really grab my attention immediately. Hell, it took me nearly a year before I started to truly enjoy AGIB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PopTodd Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Reading the lyrics to "Oh, Comely" I actually got chills.And a little choked up. Whoever said that it was a window into somebody's private dreams nailed it. The lyrics make no sense on a surface level, yet the emotional resonance they have is (for me) infinate. Combined with Jeff's voice, which is beautiful in it's purity, if not in a traditional way, does make for a harrowing experience. It's as visceral as music gets. And that is all the college student-type music critic words that I will use today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I realize music is subjective but how a music lover could not enjoy/worship this record is beyond me. It's an all-time classic.Really? I love the album, but I can recognize a ton of things that could potentially turn others off, beginning with his voice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Elixir Sue Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 beginning with his voice. Edit: Because I'm a trooper, I'm listening to this album yet again. Maybe this time it will click... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gobias Industries Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 People just have to be in a certain frame of mind to get ITAOTS, but once they get there and it clicks, it sticks forever. I love it, this album never gets old. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rileykill Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Totally fell in love with this album in college and dug it back out 'cause of this thread. Thanks ... it still sounds as immediate as it did 10 years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ction Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Edit: Because I'm a trooper, I'm listening to this album yet again. Maybe this time it will click... Picture that Magnum PI dude wearing red and white. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I think you're onto something! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Some links you all may enjoy.. Videos of a couple NMH live shows10/14/1997 Athens, GA (it says 4/17 on the link, but in everything I've seen with this boot it's labeled as 10/14.)10/31/1997 Athens GA12/5/1998 Athens, GA4/4/1998 Austin, Texas12/31/1998 Athens, GA Demos and some live shows: http://notesareshattered.blogspot.com/2007...otlegs-and.htmlEven More live shows: http://stormx.no-ip.org/nmh/ --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PopTodd Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Listening to this now.Dear god, how I love this record.It's one of those pieces of music that I can genuinely, sincerely, and with no exaggeration say has made my life a better, more beautiful place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I love this album to pieces and I love the lyrics to this album and I have no idea what the hell he is talking about. I feel it, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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