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I also feel that there is a double-standard working here, when Pat Buchanon can say this on National Televison, and he is still employed by MSNBC:

 

"America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known. Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American."

 

But its ok for Buchanon, why? Because he is white? Because its expected of him?

 

I don't agree with Buchanan's point, but I don't see his statement as intentionally inflammatory. What he said wasn't exactly "nappy-headed ho's." Do you think he was trying to say slavery was ultimately good? I didn't take that from it. I interpreted his remark to be a clumsy effort to condense the African-American experience into a single, concise statement (Point A - began as slaves, Point B - struggle and community growth, Point C - current freedom and prosperity). Now, if Pat really believes Point C, he needs to take a more thorough look around some predominantly African-American neighborhoods. Things aren't always all smiles, sunshine and lollipops there. Then again, Obama, Clarence Page and Gwen Ifill appear to be doing alright for themselves and those might be the only "black folks" Pat knows.

 

Nonetheless, Pat isn't the self-proclaimed candidate of hope and unity. Obama is. I know I'm holding Barack to a high standard, but - one more time - this is the standard he set for himself though his words and imagery. I don't care if 95% of Wright's sermons have been uplifting and positive, Obama's created image allows for almost nothing less than perfection from himself or his associates. Having your spiritual leader on tape saying "God damn America" - no matter the context - isn't going to cut it. The self-proclaimed candidate of hope and unity has to be better and more careful with who they associate with than everyone else. Otherwise, they are just another candidate. And if Barack is just another politician, just another candidate, some of my true-believer friends are going to be very disappointed. Nobody wants that.

 

Also, shoot MSNBC an e-mail if you are offended by what Buchanan said. I wouldn't mind seeing him fired. As long as he could still go on the McLaughlin Group. The sexual tension/energy between Pat and Eleanor Clift is electric. It's a joy to watch and always jump starts my Sunday mornings.

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Alice Walker:

 

It is hard to relate what it feels like to see Mrs. Clinton (I wish she felt self-assured enough to use her own name) referred to as "a woman" while Barack Obama is always referred to as "a black man." One would think she is just any woman, colorless, race-less, past-less, but she is not. She carries all the history of white womanhood in America in her person; it would be a miracle if we, and the world, did not react to this fact. How dishonest it is, to attempt to make her innocent of her racial inheritance.

 

I can easily imagine Obama sitting down and talking, person to person, with any leader, woman, man, child or common person, in the world, with no baggage of past servitude or race supremacy to mar their talks. I cannot see the same scenario with Mrs. Clinton who would drag into Twenty-First Century American leadership the same image of white privilege and distance from the reality of others' lives that has so marred our country's contacts with the rest of the world.

 

For me, those two paragraphs cancelled out, contradicted, everything that came before and after.

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As white people go. Hillary is awesome, but she's really risking whatever good will any of us have left for her by her retreating-German-army-destroying-everything-it-can't-carry approach. C'mon, Hillary. Is being the junior U.S. senator from the great state of New York all that bad? We'll meet at Val-Kill and have an ice cream cone.

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I'm tired of hearing about Rachel Tension. All she does is make trouble. It's about time you shut up talking about her.
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As white people go. Hillary is awesome, but she's really risking whatever good will any of us have left for her by her retreating-German-army-destroying-everything-it-can't-carry approach. C'mon, Hillary. Is being the junior U.S. senator from the great state of New York all that bad? We'll meet at Val-Kill and have an ice cream cone.

Yeah, this "scorched earth" style of campaigning is beginning to wear out its welcome for me - and it isn't helping her either, if the polls are any indication. I read the other day where Pat Leahy ( a guy I think pretty highly of ) was suggesting that it's time to get out of the race.

 

PLUS - there's still much talk around here about Evan Bayh being given serious consideration for her pick as VP. I've said it before, but the guy isn't fit to carry his old man's (Birch) jockstrap. He's disappointed me too many times with his voting record - most recently voting to allow immunity for the warrantless wiretapping.

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As white people go. Hillary is awesome, but she's really risking whatever good will any of us have left for her by her retreating-German-army-destroying-everything-it-can't-carry approach. C'mon, Hillary. Is being the junior U.S. senator from the great state of New York all that bad? We'll meet at Val-Kill and have an ice cream cone.

 

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Yeah, this "scorched earth" style of campaigning is beginning to wear out its welcome for me - and it isn't helping her either, if the polls are any indication. I read the other day where Pat Leahy ( a guy I think pretty highly of ) was suggesting that it's time to get out of the race.

 

PLUS - there's still much talk around here about Evan Bayh being given serious consideration for her pick as VP. I've said it before, but the guy isn't fit to carry his old man's (Birch) jockstrap. He's disappointed me too many times with his voting record - most recently voting to allow immunity for the warrantless wiretapping.

 

Someone, and I think it was someone on this board, nailed it on the head when they described her behavior as someone acting as though they were promised something, and now it

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She's white. I'm white. Gary Sheffield is black. Barack Obama is mixed race. Bruce Lee was Chinese. Pancho Villa was Mexican. Geronimo was Native American. People are what they are. Pretending race doesn't exist is no more successful than pretending it's the only thing that exists.

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She's white. I'm white. Gary Sheffield is black. Barack Obama is mixed race. Bruce Lee was Chinese. Pancho Villa was Mexican. Geronimo was Native American. People are what they are. Pretending race doesn't exist is no more successful than pretending it's the only thing that exists.

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You're white? :huh

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You're white? :huh

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