Good Old Neon Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Good. You might learn something. Ha, I Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Ha, I Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 No one owns their ideology? Not the members themselves? I mean, I could see saying no one owns their myth or meaning or something like that. Well, they've reached the point where they mean so much to so many people that they don't really mean anything to everyone, you know? I don't feel like anyone can call them their own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Nobody owns the beatles' ideology.Did Michael Jackson finally sell? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Well, they've reached the point where they mean so much to so many people that they don't really mean anything to everyone, you know?Are you fucking high? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 The issue of Taxman can easily be claimed by conservatives as their issue a song written for them. But in reality the sentiments of Taxman are more populist in nature than they are conservative. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 No one owns their ideology? Not the members themselves? I mean, I could see saying no one owns their myth or meaning or something like that. They certainly own their ideology. However, no artist owns their perceived image. No one ones their own legacy. Once the art, record, novel, poem is released, it is owned by the 'consumer'. We all bring our own baggage to the table. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Are you fucking high? Yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 I KNEW IT! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 But really, music means whatever you want it to mean to you. For me, the Beatles weren't representative of any political idealogy, because I don't really subscribe to any particular idealogy. See how that works? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Depends on the lyrics."Don't ... stop ... thinking about tomorrow ..." "Born ... in the U.S.A. ..." I Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Well, they've reached the point where they mean so much to so many people that they don't really mean anything to everyone, you know? I don't feel like anyone can call them their own. I can." -- Charles Manson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 An individual has the right to interpret a song or a collection of songs however he or she chooses, and that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gobias Industries Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 That dude is a joke. But on the serious side, Lennon (in "Revolution," one of the dude's major "sources") is all for change and revolution, he's just against violent overthrow of the system which is, quite simply, unnecessary. Change has to be peaceful for it to be of any use...as Lennon says , violence begets violence, so the best thing is to be nonviolent, because, perhaps, nonviolence will, for once, beget nonviolence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 I could christen Wilco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 The issue of Taxman can easily be claimed by conservatives as their issue a song written for them. But in reality the sentiments of Taxman are more populist in nature than they are conservative.Millionaires singing a song about being taxed out of their wealth to support a semi-socialist state. Yes, I see the populist message. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted August 26, 2008 Author Share Posted August 26, 2008 Millionaires singing a song about being taxed out of their wealth to support a semi-socialist state. Yes, I see the populist message. The circumstances of the song may not be populist in nature, but the message is defiantely populist. Heck i know people who pay no taxes who still bitch about taxes. It is a common denominator. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mastershake Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 the beatles were all about love. bush/conservatives are mainly about hate and fear and war. the author should have searched long and hard to find a pro-war song in the beatles catalog. he'd still be searching. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 the beatles were all about love. bush/conservatives are mainly about hate and fear and war. the author should have searched long and hard to find a pro-war song in the beatles catalog. he'd still be searching.ok, The Beatles are compassionate conservatives Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Well I'd rather see you dead, little girlThan to be with another manYou better keep your head, little girlOr I won't know where I am You better run for your life if you can, little girlHide your head in the sand little girlCatch you with another manThat's the end'a little girl Well you know that I'm a wicked guyAnd I was born with a jealous mindAnd I can't spend my whole lifeTrying just to make you toe the line You better run for your life if you can, little girlHide your head in the sand little girlCatch you with another manThat's the end'a little girl Let this be a sermonI mean everything I've saidBaby, I'm determinedAnd I'd rather see you dead You better run for your life if you can, little girlHide your head in the sand little girlCatch you with another manThat's the end'a little girl I'd rather see you dead, little girlThan to be with another manYou better keep your head, little girlOr you won't know where I am You better run for your life if you can, little girlHide your head in the sand little girlCatch you with another manThat's the end'a little girl Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 This is off topic, but a Beatles tidbit I like is that the song "Got to Get You Into My Life" is about Paul's desire to smoke marijuana. "Did I tell you I need you...every single day of my life" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 "Run For Your Life"JOHN 1980: "It has a line from an old Presley song. 'I'd rather see you dead little girl than to be with another man' is a line from an old blues song that Presley did once. Just sort of a throw-away song of mine that I never thought much of... but it was always a favorite of George's." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 "Run For Your Life"JOHN 1980: "It has a line from an old Presley song. 'I'd rather see you dead little girl than to be with another man' is a line from an old blues song that Presley did once. Just sort of a throw-away song of mine that I never thought much of... but it was always a favorite of George's."Wow, uncharacterisically mild considering most of John's quotes about Beatle tunes around that time amounted to "this was another load of shit." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Acres Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 It's a line from "Baby Let's Play House", done by Elvis Presley, originally by Arthur Gunter, late 1940s Now listen let me tell you babydon't you understandI'd rather see you dead little girlthan to be with another mannow baby come baby comecome back baby comecome back babyI wanna play house with you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 That's one of my favorite Elvis tunes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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