Good Old Neon Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 The cucumbers I grew in my backyard this summer tasted like crap, so dressed up in full camo and blasted the crap out of them in the dead of night from the safety of my neighbor's yard. Sure. What would most people do if civilization broke down? Where would they get their food if the supply chain for food distribution no longer existed? I know a guy whos family eats no meat from stores, ONLY deer and elk from his hunts and he's awful proud about it. This is the US-fucking-A Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 The cucumbers I grew in my backyard this summer tasted like crap, so dressed up in full camo and blasted the crap out of them in the dead of night from the safety of my neighbor's yard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Sure. What would most people do if civilization broke down? Where would they get their food if the supply chain for food distribution no longer existed? I know a guy whos family eats no meat from stores, ONLY deer and elk from his hunts and he's awful proud about it.You know The NugeTM!?! Awesome! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I absolutely hate that man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NightOfJoy Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I absolutely hate that man. I'll second that notion. Check into how he avoided the draft in the Viet Nam era. You'll detest him even more. The man is a high priest hypocrite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
myboyblue Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I absolutely hate that man. The Nuge is like the Rush Limbaugh of shitty rock and roll. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I'll second that notion. Check into how he avoided the draft in the Viet Nam era. You'll detest him even more. The man is a high priest hypocrite. Anyone who has ever served time in hair metal band can no longer claim to be or act all tough and stuff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 The Nuge is like the Rush Limbaugh of shitty rock and roll.Jouney to the Center of the Mind is one of the all-time GREATS of late 60s U.S. psychedelic-rock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted September 5, 2008 Author Share Posted September 5, 2008 Ikol, I'm so sorry I veered this thing so far off track. I'm not a hunter and have no desire to hunt (though, like all the other "hypocrites" here, I like to fish), but I don't see what's wrong with it. It's not inhumane. It's a quick and relatively painless death. While the methods used to hunt are not exactly natural (though one could argue that our use of intelligence to build the tools used to hunt is natural), deer have a natural role as prey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I'm not a hunter and have no desire to hunt (though, like all the other "hypocrites" here, I like to fish), but I don't see what's wrong with it. It's not inhumane. It's a quick and relatively painless death. While the methods used to hunt are not exactly natural (though one could argue that our use of intelligence to build the tools used to hunt is natural), deer have a natural role as prey. I'll concede that it's more humane than slaughterhouses, but that doesn't make it necessary, which is my problem with it. And again, SORRY!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 To those that are 100% opposed to hunting, what do you propose that we do in the state of Michigan with the deer population if no one is allowed to shoot them? We already have a problem with car/deer accidents and farmers fields being destroyed by them as it is. What happens when their population grows exponentially? There really aren't any natural preditors of deer in this state that can handle the numbers. Is it ok to hunt for food? I can see a vegitarian/vegan stance on this, but what if you eat meat? Hunting is a more humane way of getting meat than 99.9% of the meat sold in stores.Lethal injection Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jenbobblehead Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I had a modest veggie garden this year, but the bugs ate most of my squash plants. So I drowned them with Raid, because killing bugs doesn't count. Actually, I can't bring myself to kill bugs, so I picked them off one by one and threw them in my neighbor's yard, and bought some bug netting for next year's garden. Ikol, I'm so sorry I veered this thing so far off track.Next year get some praying mantis egg sacks. They'll eat everything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 In the spirit of bipartisanship...I love Ted Nugent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
austrya Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Next year get some praying mantis egg sacks. They'll eat everything. I have a praying mantis living in my flower garden. It's been there for about a week. At least I think it's the same one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 No that was probably one of it's progeny. Those things are like Irish Catholics all they do is copulate and pray. They do throw in some creepy post-coital cannibalism, but that's just another addition to the confession. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quarter23cd Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Ikol, I'm so sorry I veered this thing so far off track.Ditto. I really never dreamed this silliness would go on so long. My bad. Carry on......this is actually a great thread and we should probably get back to the topic at hand... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Next year get some praying mantis egg sacks. They'll eat everything. Serious? Where so you get such a thing? I need help in this department desperately.We don't use any chemicals, and we don't have much that hasn't been attacked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jenbobblehead Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Serious? Where so you get such a thing? I need help in this department desperately.We don't use any chemicals, and we don't have much that hasn't been attacked.Well, I always got mine at a good garden center in CT, but you can probably order them online. You just put them out in the spring and let them hatch, but be warned, they eat all the good bugs too, like butterflies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Well, I always got mine at a good garden center in CT, but you can probably order them online. You just put them out in the spring and let them hatch, but be warned, they eat all the good bugs too, like butterflies. Even if you have lots of land? Will they stay by the house for the most part? I plant a lot of flowers specific to butterflies, and we have milk-weed growing on it's own, hate to lose them. Also, I have a toad village, what will they eat? I'll have to look into it I guess. Do we still have a garden thread? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jenbobblehead Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Even if you have lots of land? Will they stay by the house for the most part? I plant a lot of flowers specific to butterflies, and we have milk-weed growing on it's own, hate to lose them. Also, I have a toad village, what will they eat? I'll have to look into it I guess. Do we still have a garden thread?They stay by the garden where they have things to eat. They love aphids and other little juicy bugs. I had one gigantic one living on a butterfly bush and she ate about six monarch butterflies before i figured out what was going on, and relocated her to another part of the garden. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 They stay by the garden where they have things to eat. They love aphids and other little juicy bugs. I had one gigantic one living on a butterfly bush and she ate about six monarch butterflies before i figured out what was going on, and relocated her to another part of the garden. Thanks! I'll put this down for spring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 I have a legitimate beef with deer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 I know a number of very qualified teachers who would gladly take you to school on this issue! Indeed. But both sides of the aisle show their stupidity on education. Create standards, don't fund them but hold the teachers responsible for them. Grade schools and students with standardized tests, but have the tests scored by uneducated civil service employees. Require more documentation than a teacher can get through in an 8-hour day, and yet also require that they teach kids morals, sex education, creationism, exercise parents kids because they're fat -- and don't require a parent to be responsible for anything. Hard to make a living wage when you're having to spend out of your own pocket for school supplies because the schools won't provide them and you can't ask the parents to. hey, don't forget that teachers and schools are also in charge of ending racism, treating family issues, identifying and treating mental health issues, teaching in unteachable circumstances, feeding hungry kids, and being the gatekeepers for child abuse and neglect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 THe way we treat education and teachers in this country is a national disgrace. I am also very tired of McCain & Obama talking mainly about higher education, skipping the state of education in general. We need to keep our kids in school, and in good schools. Teachers need to be paid what they are worth, and be given the best resources possible to to their jobs. I also think parents need to play a bigger part in their child's education. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 THe way we treat education and teachers in this country is a national disgrace. I am also very tired of McCain & Obama talking mainly about higher education, skipping the state of education in general. We need to keep our kids in school, and in good schools. Teachers need to be paid what they are worth, and be given the best resources possible to to their jobs. I also think parents need to play a bigger part in their child's education. I am tired of parents having to work 60 hours a week and not having the time or energy to help their kids become adults and having the public school responsible for it and vaccinations to keep kids in school and parents at work and the all that. It's a machine to keep working people working and it affects families. I am also tired of the recruiting system for teachers...anyone who can graduate a 4yr. Yeah, still in good company, but the lack of financial rewards for educators speaks volumes about how we truly do not value education. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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