Record Store Day

[calvino]

Yeah, Plaza was alway hippie-ish.

 

Cool. Your daughter has a radio show down there? Which station??

 

I think if I could keep the living I am making now and just transpose myself and my family down to Carbondale, I think I would do it. But that is the problem, no industry down there except the Hospitals and the University. There is so much outdoorsy shit to do down there, you know. Feeling energetic? Go mountain biking at Cedar Lake or rock climbing at Garden of the Gods (that'll never happen for me, but you can! I just bring my cooler and watch) or go jet-skiing on Cedar Lake. Feeling lazy, go fishing on Little Grassy Lake or bring your boat and a keg out to the spillway. I may be being nostalgic, and probably am, but Carbondale sounds like so much more fun than being out here in the boring-ass suburbs.

 

Don't forget the jail system. About half my in-laws work for the state correctional system in one fashion or another. If I had the choice between a Chicago suburb and the Carbondale area, I probably would choose down there. All those things you mentioned above are definitely great activities. We still try to go camping down there at least once or twice a year.

[jimthedrummer]

So yesterday I went to Turn It Up in Northampton MA (a great store, BTW), which is on the record store day list, and they had no idea whether or not they'd be getting Ashes. The guy behind the counter had a list of Record Store Day releases, but it made no mention of the DVD. I assured him of the disc's affiliation, and mentioned the audio download. He said he'd like to buy a copy himself, but mentioned how poorly organized the whole thing was. He took down my number and said his boss would call me.

 

Last night the bossman DID call me (the fact they remembered to follow up impressed me), but even he had no idea whether or not they'd be getting it, because it was on none of the information they've recieved from the organizers or their distributors.

 

I'd love to support this whole thing, but I guess I'll have to do the pre-order... I was going to be buying three copies at the store (for myself, friends and family), but I'll just do the one via mail order (6.95 shipping)! Hopefully the others will buy their own copies when they find the time and access.

 

I was planning on having a viewing party next Saturday, and presuming the mail order is timely, it will happen as planned.

 

Regardless, I'll own this thing, and watch it many, many times...

[LouieB]

Actually it is pretty shocking that in this day and age the communication with the distributers is so bad. I mean really; you would think this kind of merch would be exactly the kind of thing that would be sold in large amounts during an event like this. I just don't get it. Same as with the disorganization on the Wilco LPs.

 

LouieB

[Dr. Steve Brule]

We (Laurie's Planet of Sound) do have the DVD on order, and hope to get in a bunch. However, we are not doing mail order for any of the Record Store Day stuff because the whole purpose is for people to come into the store and buy it. We're anticipating being a little busy on the actual day as well.

[LouieB]

We (Laurie's Planet of Sound) do have the DVD on order, and hope to get in a bunch. However, we are not doing mail order for any of the Record Store Day stuff because the whole purpose is for people to come into the store and buy it. We're anticipating being a little busy on the actual day as well.

Okay, bad suggestion on my part...well the original poster can then contact me and I will buy the DVD for him (if I can watch it first....just kidding...)

 

LouieB

[fac93]

Actually it is pretty shocking that in this day and age the communication with the distributers is so bad. I mean really; you would think this kind of merch would be exactly the kind of thing that would be sold in large amounts during an event like this. I just don't get it. Same as with the disorganization on the Wilco LPs.

 

LouieB

 

And to that point, I've now taken your earlier suggestion and called over a dozen stores (including several I used to frequent in person in Boston, Berkeley and Atlanta), and nobody's doing mail order in order to preserve the integrity of the event. And I understand this to the point that one of the goals of the day is to foster the experience of being in the store (i.e. smelling the vinyl, people watching, talking to the likeminded clerks and/or customers, etc.). Not only that, nobody can even tell me for sure if they're getting whatever particular record in stock that day, so even if I could drive a couple of hours to the ATL, there's no guarantee that I'd even get what I was looking for. That said, I'm stuck here in Alabama, and by calling/emailing several of these stores I'm giving them the opportunity to make even more money than they are going to make anyway and, methinks, through financial participation in the event help these stores make it to the 3rd annual Record Store Day in 2010. It's not like I'm petitioning Amazon to carry this stuff or order direct from Matador b/c I can't be bothered to head on down to my local store. Trust me I used to manage the indie record shop in Tuscaloosa and bemoan the death of that type of store/experience as much as anyone.

 

So back to the original point of my post, if anyone wants to pick up the Pavement live LP for me, I'd be glad to pay you back for your troubles.

 

Edit: In fact, my whole experience today in talking to these stores has been tainted by an air of obtuse exclusivity on their part (and maybe their poicies come straight from the Record Store Day higher ups) that has probably led to many a store's downfall and the need for day's such as this saturday.

[Moss]

And to that point, I've now taken your earlier suggestion and called over a dozen stores (including several I used to frequent in person in Boston, Berkeley and Atlanta), and nobody's doing mail order in order to preserve the integrity of the event. And I understand this to the point that one of the goals of the day is to foster the experience of being in the store (i.e. smelling the vinyl, people watching, talking to the likeminded clerks and/or customers, etc.). Not only that, nobody can even tell me for sure if they're getting whatever particular record in stock that day, so even if I could drive a couple of hours to the ATL, there's no guarantee that I'd even get what I was looking for. That said, I'm stuck here in Alabama, and by calling/emailing several of these stores I'm giving them the opportunity to make even more money than they are going to make anyway and, methinks, through financial participation in the event help these stores make it to the 3rd annual Record Store Day in 2010. It's not like I'm petitioning Amazon to carry this stuff or order direct from Matador b/c I can't be bothered to head on down to my local store. Trust me I used to manage the indie record shop in Tuscaloosa and bemoan the death of that type of store/experience as much as anyone.

 

So back to the original point of my post, if anyone wants to pick up the Pavement live LP for me, I'd be glad to pay you back for your troubles.

 

Edit: In fact, my whole experience today in talking to these stores has been tainted by an air of obtuse exclusivity on their part (and maybe their poicies come straight from the Record Store Day higher ups) that has probably led to many a store's downfall and the need for day's such as this saturday.

 

So which Pavement LP is it? Is it just now coming out? Not on Amazon? I can see about picking one up but the record store I go to is fairly small so no guarantees.

[jonbama]

And to that point, I've now taken your earlier suggestion and called over a dozen stores (including several I used to frequent in person in Boston, Berkeley and Atlanta), and nobody's doing mail order in order to preserve the integrity of the event. And I understand this to the point that one of the goals of the day is to foster the experience of being in the store (i.e. smelling the vinyl, people watching, talking to the likeminded clerks and/or customers, etc.). Not only that, nobody can even tell me for sure if they're getting whatever particular record in stock that day, so even if I could drive a couple of hours to the ATL, there's no guarantee that I'd even get what I was looking for. That said, I'm stuck here in Alabama, and by calling/emailing several of these stores I'm giving them the opportunity to make even more money than they are going to make anyway and, methinks, through financial participation in the event help these stores make it to the 3rd annual Record Store Day in 2010. It's not like I'm petitioning Amazon to carry this stuff or order direct from Matador b/c I can't be bothered to head on down to my local store. Trust me I used to manage the indie record shop in Tuscaloosa and bemoan the death of that type of store/experience as much as anyone.

 

So back to the original point of my post, if anyone wants to pick up the Pavement live LP for me, I'd be glad to pay you back for your troubles.

 

Edit: In fact, my whole experience today in talking to these stores has been tainted by an air of obtuse exclusivity on their part (and maybe their poicies come straight from the Record Store Day higher ups) that has probably led to many a store's downfall and the need for day's such as this saturday.

I was going to suggest you go to oz in tuscaloosa but i guess you used to manage that store (unless you manage vinyl solutions back in the day). the guy at oz told me a few weeks back they would have the dvd and if you are in birmingham it's only about a 30 or 45 minute drive and you could check out the a day festivities while you are there.

[u2roolz]

Hey Everyone,

 

Well, I feel quite lucky after hearing these "horror" stories. I live in Southern NH very close to the Northeastern MA border and the closest store to me is Bull Moose in Salem, NH. I went there last Thursday night and the guy looked up the dvd for me and said that they'd be getting 18 copies in. So I pre-ordered one for myself.

This included no money transaction. I just put down my name and will hopefully have one set aside.

 

http://www.bullmoose.com/rel/v2_home.php?d...amp;storenr=258

 

So for anyone in this area you have that specific store and there's another store in Portsmouth, NH.

Here is the store number for the Salem, NH location 1-603-898-6254.

 

I'm not really sure how one would be able to coordinate picking up copies for the sole purpose of getting the "bonus download of entire show"?

If anyone really wants a copy and would like to get the dvd in the mail PM me. Keep in mind there's supposedly 17 left.

I guess if it works out the way we think it will I can PM those who buy it the "link". Which I hope will work without a DVD.

Other than that I don't know what else. Well, the store is easily accessible off of 213 which connects 495 and 93.

 

Thanks,

 

Kristofor

[fac93]

I was going to suggest you go to oz in tuscaloosa but i guess you used to manage that store (unless you manage vinyl solutions back in the day). the guy at oz told me a few weeks back they would have the dvd and if you are in birmingham it's only about a 30 or 45 minute drive and you could check out the a day festivities while you are there.

 

 

It was in fact Vinyl Solution back in the day (I was there off and on from '87-'95). But I've got my son's baseball and I'm a chef, so I've got to juggle both recreation and work on saturday. So even the 50min both ways is undoable for me. Like I say, I'd love to help foster an event such as this, but presently financially is the only way I'm able to contribute.

[LouieB]

So back to the original point of my post, if anyone wants to pick up the Pavement live LP for me, I'd be glad to pay you back for your troubles.

 

Edit: In fact, my whole experience today in talking to these stores has been tainted by an air of obtuse exclusivity on their part (and maybe their poicies come straight from the Record Store Day higher ups) that has probably led to many a store's downfall and the need for day's such as this saturday.

See my PM....I volunteer...

 

Let's be honest, if indie stores are counting on one day to keep them from going out of business (really increasing business..) then they need to guarantee that the special productsadvertized need to be there and MAYBE need to be there for a few weeks after to mop up the good feelings. Every day should be record day if you are in the business. Helping people get the products that they desire (particularly after raising people's expectations) should be their job. When you see the WB on some of the PR, it makes you wonder exactly what this event is about.

 

LouieB

[jimthedrummer]

After reading about the NH store that has ordered 18 copies, I decided to call the Amherst MA Newbury Comics store, another retailer particpating in the promotion. The guy that answered said he had no idea if they'd have it! He saw the title in the computer, figured the chain would have it, but could not tell me for sure if they'd have it in stock on Saturday.

 

I REALLY want to have a copy for Saturday night, I have invited a few friends over for a Wilco bash... I guess I have no choice but to do the pre-sale and cross my fingers I get the disc in time. I'd love to support the retailers, but no one can give me any indication that the DVD will be available!

 

Crazy, eh??

 

Off to wilcoworld to buy a DVD!

[jimthedrummer]

Quick question... If I order this dvd from Wilcoworld, how does it ship? The shipping options don't spell out whether its USPS, or UPS. It makes a difference where I have it shipped to, work or home. Does anyone know the shipping method?

 

Thanks,

Jim

[Wendy]

Quick question... If I order this dvd from Wilcoworld, how does it ship? The shipping options don't spell out whether its USPS, or UPS. It makes a difference where I have it shipped to, work or home. Does anyone know the shipping method?

 

Thanks,

Jim

 

The Wilco Store has a "help" section ... and here's your answer:

 

US Domestic orders ship by default through USPS and can take 7-12 business days for delivery. You do have an option to upgrade to UPS for an additional charge. All orders with PO/APO/FPO addresses can only be shipped via USPS (US Postal Service 7-12 business day delivery).

[dondoboy]

Are all the other store websites showing the same "Record Store Day Releases" list? I'd post it but its huge.

[fac93]

See my PM....I volunteer...

 

Let's be honest, if indie stores are counting on one day to keep them from going out of business (really increasing business..) then they need to guarantee that the special productsadvertized need to be there and MAYBE need to be there for a few weeks after to mop up the good feelings. Every day should be record day if you are in the business. Helping people get the products that they desire (particularly after raising people's expectations) should be their job. When you see the WB on some of the PR, it makes you wonder exactly what this event is about.

 

LouieB

 

Firstly, I'd like to thank LouieB for his generous thoughts and offer during this process.

 

And what he brings up here as far as the real and/or obtainable objectives of "Record Store Day" vis-a-vis the future viability of independent record stores are what my frustrations stem from. Like I said earlier, I'm not trying to catch a bargain, skirt the process, or avoid any perceived "hassle" of going down to the local record store to get a hold of some of these great, exclusive items. What I am, is a guy stuck in an area with no local participant in "Record Store Day" with obligations that preclude my ability to get to such stores. But , I've got the real desire to be a part of this event both financially and *ahem* philisophically (for lack of a better word).

 

So I get up today, call/email over dozen stores and am stonewalled at every corner. And to be clear, every person I spoke to at each store was very nice. It was not a case of a bunch of snooty Jack Blacks from High Fidelity talking down to me b/c I live in Alabama. It was actually one of two things: 1) an employee who had no idea about what they were getting on Saturday or how the day was going to go or 2) a manager/ owner who said their hands were tied, but in store customers (as opposed to mail order customers) was what the event was about. And that was all fine and dandy back in the day.

 

But the fact of the matter is that if these independent stores and labels really want to stem the tide of people going away from the process of buying a physical product, then they should do everything they can to keep me (and I assume I'm not alone) interested in the act of buying records. And as LouieB noted, it can't just be a one day/limited edition vinyl thing, but rather these guys need to make the process of the informed/conscientious consumer interacting with the informed/conscientious retailer in an ongoing phenomenon.

 

I'll get off my soapbox now, but stay tuned for part 2 of my tangentially related diatribe based on the Art vs. Commerce at a record label struggles of Factory Records back in the 80s.

[bobfrombob]

I went into a store here in Ottawa that will be participating. I asked if he would have the Wilco DVD and he informed me it's not released in Canada 'till the 28th.

[LouieB]

Firstly, I'd like to thank LouieB for his generous thoughts and offer during this process.

 

I'll get off my soapbox now, but stay tuned for part 2 of my tangentially related diatribe based on the Art vs. Commerce at a record label struggles of Factory Records back in the 80s.

I posted more of my thoughts on the Wilco vinyl thread. I can't wait for part two.

 

I discovered I keep using the term "let's be honest" way to often, but the fact remains, that the record companies barely care about consumers. I was ripped on this by someone, but it is true; the only record companies that kept active vinyl catalogues during the thin years were the larger indie labels. Then some folks got the idea that it would be fun to reissue old and obscure titles on on LP (Sundazed, 4 guys with Beards, etc.) and that was somewhat fun, but I wonder how profitable. No one makes nearly enough money off of LPs to make continuing them unless all music sales continue at some reasonable level. If CDs disappear, then LPs will as well.

 

The selling of vinyl records will go on for awhile and I think that is good, but it is a sideline for just about everyone, including the larger indies. Unless people start buying both CDs AND LPs from these companies, they are going to disappear as well.

 

LouieB

[RainDogToo]

From WilcoWorld:

 

WILCO stopped by the Disc Exchange in Lexington, KY to celebrate RECORD STORE DAY and to sign copies of the Ashes of American Flags DVD for fans, there's a link to more information and some video of it here:

 

[Reed]

I work at Oz in Tuscaloosa. I thought I would try to answer some questions, or just inject a few thoughts. And I get where you're coming from, so no hard feelings or anything. BUT--

 

1. How could we possibly take something off of the shelves for our in-store customers and ship it to someone that didn't make it?

2. When there are 1,000 copies of something available and over 1,500 stores requesting multiple copies, stores truly didn't know until wednesday or thursday what they had.

3. If a record store is still open in this climate, it IS doing exactly what you think it should. Believe me, someone has to make an effort to go buy something these days. It's all available for free. Easily. If they are shopping, it's because we are helping and we are giving a damn. Period.

 

and finally--

 

4. The only time I've ever encountered a Jack Black type in a store was at Vinyl Solution in Tuscaloosa, AL. Just thought that was ironic.

 

Every day isn't Record Store Day at Oz. Every day is Customer Appreciation Day. That's why we're still open and doing well, while everything else in town has closed.

[bird jam]

From WilcoWorld:

 

WILCO stopped by the Disc Exchange in Lexington, KY to celebrate RECORD STORE DAY and to sign copies of the Ashes of American Flags DVD for fans, there's a link to more information and some video of it here:

 

 

Umm... did they forget about us already? It was Knoxville.

[LouieB]

Firstly, I'd like to thank LouieB for his generous thoughts and offer during this process.

Time to get your stuff out, but sadly the PM program is down so I lost your address. Hopefully you sent me the mailer before it disappeared.

 

LouieB

[LouieB]

Robin-

 

Please email me...lberkman@isbe.net I didn't get your address before the PM went down.

 

Thanks.

 

LouieB